In this dreamy, stream-of-consciousness episode, Henrik takes us on a journey from the nostalgic world of He-Man action figures to the vast expanse of the cosmos.
With his signature blend of humor and introspection, Henrik rambles about the peculiarities of 80s cartoon characters, the overrepresentation of desert planets in science fiction, and the profound implications of our place in the universe.
Dive into Henrik's childhood memories as he recounts his fascination with He-Man toys and the challenges of playing romance with action figures designed for battle.
Laugh along as he ponders the logistics of Skeletor's facial structure and the improbable workout routines of intergalactic heroes.
As the episode progresses, Henrik's thoughts drift towards deeper waters. He contemplates the vastness of space and time, questioning popular depictions of space travel in science fiction. With poetic musings inspired by authors like Ray Bradbury and Harry Martinsson, Henrik explores the human condition when faced with the infinite.
This episode is a perfect blend of nostalgia, humor, and existential wonder. Whether you're looking for a chuckle about the absurdities of childhood toys or a moment of cosmic perspective, Henrik's soothing voice and meandering thoughts will guide you through a unique and relaxing experience.
So, settle in, close your eyes, and let Henrik's words carry you from the world of muscular action figures to the edges of the universe â and perhaps, into a peaceful slumber.
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[00:00:56] Hi and welcome to Fall asleep with Henrik.
[00:01:00] I am Henrik and you are Sleepy and it is what it is.
[00:01:07] What happens, happens and as of right now, there is nothing we can do about any of it.
[00:01:18] So with that said, let's begin this questionable show.
[00:01:26] Hi Sleepy!
[00:01:29] So I'll begin straight out of the box by telling you that Fall asleep with Henrik is a podcast that you don't have to listen to.
[00:01:38] It's an experiment that is meant really to put you to sleep.
[00:01:47] You don't need to pay any attention to what I'm saying.
[00:01:51] I haven't prepared anything in advance.
[00:01:54] I am just rambling really.
[00:02:01] And the main purpose is to act as this friend maybe, that's staying over at your place,
[00:02:14] talking about this and that until you fall asleep.
[00:02:18] That's the main work model.
[00:02:24] But then it's also a podcast that I'm really proud of content-wise because I am.
[00:02:32] I'm not really good at anything except one thing and that is speaking my thoughts and my mind out loud.
[00:02:45] That's really the only thing in the world that I'm good at and why not make a living out of it, I thought.
[00:02:53] So here I am.
[00:02:56] I will talk for an hour and you don't need to do anything.
[00:03:04] The only reason that I don't read from like the phone book or something is that that sort of dullness,
[00:03:14] that sort of non-content is really not what I'm aiming for here.
[00:03:21] I'm really trying to entertain you.
[00:03:25] But since I haven't prepared anything, since English is my second language
[00:03:31] and since I'm not really a genius, the entertainment will be, you know, so-so.
[00:03:41] I just can't entertain you like other people with a plan do, you know.
[00:03:55] So I will talk about myself, I guess, and about things I'm currently keeping in my mind.
[00:04:02] I will tell you about my life and my world but I will also, you know, just float out in this very fluffy fantasy world
[00:04:11] where anything can happen really.
[00:04:15] I can stop mid-sentence and just start talking about something else altogether.
[00:04:25] So right now I am in my studio in my garden.
[00:04:31] I call my studio Adventure Wolf and that's such an 80s name, isn't it?
[00:04:40] It sounds like this vehicle or this creature from an 80s movie,
[00:04:46] maybe something from, you know, like the cartoon version of He-Man or something.
[00:04:54] If you're born in the 80s or 70s, you... I don't know if you remember He-Man.
[00:05:01] In Sweden he was very big in the 80s.
[00:05:04] All my friends in school had He-Man action figures and his castle gray skull.
[00:05:12] And the toys were very crappy.
[00:05:16] I know people always say that toys were manufactured more robust when they were children.
[00:05:25] But the truth is it's just not accurate.
[00:05:31] I never got any He-Man toys because my mother was very much against it.
[00:05:36] I don't know why really because she gave me Star Wars toys.
[00:05:41] So I don't know why.
[00:05:44] I guess it was maybe it had something to do with He-Man's nudity.
[00:05:50] He was very...
[00:05:56] Okay, so if this is...
[00:05:58] If you don't recognize He-Man, if you don't know who he is, slash was.
[00:06:03] He was this prince who lived in space somewhere.
[00:06:08] I don't remember the plot like really accurately but he had this arch nemesis called Skeletor
[00:06:16] and he was this skeleton.
[00:06:18] But strangely enough this skeleton had like human tissue on his body except not his face.
[00:06:27] So his face was a skeleton face but his body was this very well nourished,
[00:06:35] very well exercised and taken care of dude.
[00:06:39] And the same goes for all the characters in this He-Man universe.
[00:06:46] All of them were very well exercised except for maybe one or two characters.
[00:06:54] And one common thing for them all was that they were all very...
[00:07:01] Let's just say that the budget of their costumes was, I don't know, very low I guess.
[00:07:10] They didn't have much on.
[00:07:13] It was basically armored underwear like plated underwear.
[00:07:28] And maybe that's the reason my mother never wanted me to have He-Man toys because it was just...
[00:07:34] I don't remember any women.
[00:07:37] Well, I guess there was this princess I guess but I don't remember ever wanting her as a toy.
[00:07:44] I wanted the guys and I wanted He-Man.
[00:07:50] And he had this great sword and he...
[00:07:54] Whenever he drew the sword he yelled from the top of his lungs,
[00:08:00] I have the power I guess would be the equivalent in English.
[00:08:07] I have the power and then he just held the sword up high
[00:08:11] and then there was lighting effects and stuff and his very well proportioned body
[00:08:17] was like totally exposed in this very weird light.
[00:08:27] Every time he did that the light became different.
[00:08:33] So imagine he was on a desert planet or something.
[00:08:37] It was a lot of desert.
[00:08:41] Let me get back to that because deserts I think is really an issue in the Star Wars universe as well.
[00:08:49] But it could be walking around in his plated underwear in some distant desert somewhere
[00:08:56] looking for a skeleton which was equally undressed, I guess.
[00:09:00] He also had this but slightly more evil underwear.
[00:09:07] Have you ever met someone with evil underwear sleepy?
[00:09:15] If you have then please write to me and tell me because I would like to know
[00:09:20] what evil underwear can do to a person or can look like.
[00:09:26] A skeleton I guess had evil plated underwear and also like swords and stuff
[00:09:32] and for some reason a skeleton face but the rest of his body was kung fu fighting.
[00:09:44] So he could be walking around like this.
[00:09:47] Yeah and he also had this ordinary prince alter ego when he was just this ordinary prince
[00:09:53] and then like Superman when he was needed he just threw the sword up in the sky
[00:09:58] and he yelled I got the power and then he just got undressed like really quickly like Superman
[00:10:07] and Superman at least has this suit on him.
[00:10:13] He man just had this.
[00:10:15] I remember his like shorts or whatever it was to be kind of furry
[00:10:21] and I can't think of anything more disgusting really than furry shorts
[00:10:26] because it's I mean it's just this very weird thing to carry on that particular part of your body.
[00:10:34] Why would you want to surround that area with like fur and stuff?
[00:10:40] I think if it was nylon I would get it.
[00:10:46] I would think yeah that's probably it, you know.
[00:10:50] You want things to be you know stable.
[00:10:53] You don't want something furry flanging around you know.
[00:10:59] You want okay so I'm going to stop right there because this is getting out of hand.
[00:11:08] Okay so then he was suddenly needed in this vast surrendered desert
[00:11:16] and deserted I should say not surrendered.
[00:11:21] It was a deserted desert and okay so he saw a skeleton like running away in the distance
[00:11:31] and then he had to become he-man and he just raised his sword and he said I got the power
[00:11:36] and then the light on the whole planet was like very different.
[00:11:40] It was this beaming purple white bright light thing just coming out of the sword
[00:11:50] and from his body and also on him like from some imaginable light source that suddenly appeared in the sky
[00:12:00] and I remember thinking that this is weird because the light just a second ago
[00:12:07] was this dim evening desert light and now all of a sudden he's like it's like he's in an eighties disco you know.
[00:12:19] But then again if you can believe in magic swords that suddenly throws the clothes out of a prince
[00:12:26] then I mean it's equally possible that magical lighting can occur whenever you wave around said sword
[00:12:40] and then the game was on.
[00:12:46] I wasn't allowed to watch the shows either.
[00:12:50] In Sweden we couldn't see it on regular TV we had to rent it on VHS
[00:12:54] and we didn't have a tape recorder or VHS video tape recorder.
[00:13:02] So we had to go to my friend Pontus and he had a VCR
[00:13:13] and I remember sitting down and watching that show
[00:13:20] and like this huge feeling of adventure and possibilities just went through me like an electric wave
[00:13:32] and I went home and I asked my mother if we could buy a VCR
[00:13:36] or maybe if I could have he-man toys or something
[00:13:40] but she said no and I still don't know why because it wasn't the violence in this show or in this franchise
[00:13:48] it wasn't graphic at all it was very innocent and I guess it must have had to do something to do with the nudity
[00:13:58] he-man's provocative nudity.
[00:14:02] But I mean it wasn't anything out of the ordinary
[00:14:07] it wasn't something that today you would have raised your eyebrows in front of
[00:14:13] it was just this furry underwear
[00:14:18] and it's also very weird to think of how do you manage
[00:14:24] how do you keep up that how do you keep that body
[00:14:28] in this distant space world
[00:14:33] I mean imagine you travel through space
[00:14:40] you know with I mean you know space food it's just you know tubes and anti-gravity things
[00:14:48] and it's you know I don't think that you tend to your body very well
[00:14:59] but he-man the way he looked I mean he must have stuffed himself with supplements
[00:15:05] you know and you know he was probably fasting for like very extended periods of time
[00:15:17] and then he was bulking different periods and but you never saw that in he-man
[00:15:21] you never saw his different periods his different bodybuilding phases
[00:15:26] he never worked out either I never saw him lifting weights or running on a treadmill or
[00:15:35] treadmill what's it called treadmill or treadmill
[00:15:40] oh the wonders of the English language
[00:15:45] I think I'm getting better as the weeks go by I think I'm getting a bit better
[00:15:55] I must say sleepy that I really enjoy recording these episodes as far as listeners go
[00:16:03] the podcast develops in a really slow pace right now
[00:16:09] and that's okay I mean I have time I've decided to give this like at least a year
[00:16:17] but I have my goal and I told you about my goal I have a goal to reach one million listeners
[00:16:24] within a year and right now that goal seems very very far away but it's okay
[00:16:34] because I really enjoy this I really enjoy speaking from my brain in this
[00:16:42] very different way than I'm used to it's hard for me to it was hard in the beginning
[00:16:50] I meant to say to translate my very vivid and fragmented brain into an English output
[00:17:03] and that's why I have that's why I've hesitated for so many years to do this
[00:17:12] because the idea has been with me from like maybe five years ago
[00:17:24] so I mean what you don't see is he man and Skeletor and the others
[00:17:30] you know stuffing themselves with protein shakes and pre-workout caffeine and creatine supplements
[00:17:42] and a lot of what's it called the thing you eat when you is it creatine
[00:17:49] when you want to gain like muscle mass very fast and of course they they stuff themselves with growth hormones
[00:17:58] so they have these shots and they put them in their buttocks I don't know but cheeks buttocks
[00:18:06] that's an English word right it sounds very English very British to say buttocks
[00:18:16] no but so the things you don't see in the he-man universe is he-man accidentally walking in on into Skeletor
[00:18:28] pushing a shot with growth hormone in his right but cheek and he's like what are you doing get out of here
[00:18:35] get out of here don't look at me don't look at me that way what are you laughing at
[00:18:42] and then he-man goes away very happy with himself because he exposed Skeletor for with like the cheater that he is
[00:18:52] I mean he cheats quote unquote cheats with the growth hormones while the truth is that he-man also uses this substance to gain muscle mass fast
[00:19:05] because I mean since you're living in a very dangerous environment when the enemies can jump on you like anytime
[00:19:12] you need to be prepared except you never see that you never see them working out or being like constantly on the edge
[00:19:25] you know I would be so stressed if I had if I had an arch nemesis if I had like this main enemy that could jump me at any time
[00:19:39] I would really be stressed out but he-man he isn't maybe Skeletor is it's harder to interpret his facial expressions since he doesn't have a face
[00:19:53] not a human real skin face with skin attached so I wonder really what happened to Skeletor since he looks like that
[00:20:08] I mean how do you lose your biologic tissue on your face in particular and he also always has this hood on
[00:20:19] so you don't see if he's got hair or anything it's just his face that is pure Skeleton pure bone
[00:20:28] and how does he see with that it just holds where the eye sockets in these just the eye sockets so and how does he how does he produce sound
[00:20:41] I mean he doesn't have any vocal chords I guess since well maybe he does he has this suit of armor well no it doesn't have a suit of armor
[00:20:51] he has this harness I guess on his upper body maybe that produces sound and then of course his torso is like yeah it's got skin on it and everything
[00:21:06] and so maybe it's just his face and how does that happen I mean you don't just go around doing your normal stuff through the day
[00:21:19] and just accidentally drops your face skin you know you don't do that it's not a thing at least not as far as I know
[00:21:29] but then again I'm not a doctor I'm not a face doctor I'm not a dermatologist I'm an actor from Sweden who haven't prepared
[00:21:40] and then now I'm all of a sudden in this he-man universe where I'm not really I don't feel quite at home because as far as he-man goes
[00:21:52] I don't remember really at that age I guess I was like 10 or 12 I don't remember even being like really interested in the muscles and stuff
[00:22:09] and then the exposed he-manic skin I wasn't I wasn't really taken by that I guess it was just this thing that he was living in space
[00:22:22] and that he was a hero and that he was strong of course because I was not strong and I experienced difficulties in school with bullying and such
[00:22:36] and I was I had these fantasies of being special I had these fantasies of being in control and being able to fend off my my foes
[00:22:50] but that is why I know that I would do very poorly with this constant established arch nemesis which he never died he-man never died
[00:23:08] I mean if now I'm not I don't mean he-man Skeletor never died I mean if you had an arch nemesis in this fantasy universe and he was like this really threatening menace to like all of civilization
[00:23:27] wouldn't you want to do wouldn't you want to do something to get rid of him like at least depending on where your philosophy and morality stands
[00:23:36] imprison him for like a few years but Skeletor always got away and they never got to cap him or anything so that's weird because if I was if I were he-man I would like
[00:23:52] okay so just let's just get rid of this dude I mean it's I guess it's not nice but can we just can we just you know what if he were to have an accident walking down the stairs you know
[00:24:11] fallen off his armored tiger because he had a tiger or maybe it was he-man who had a tiger and that you could also buy that tiger as a toy toy tiger
[00:24:25] I tinkered with the toy tiger Tuesday morning and and they the tigers I remember the toy like like this
[00:24:43] it's a stale in the middle of a leap and roaring and he looked like he was really upset you know really into battle mode and sometimes that's an issue when you're a kid because you don't always play action
[00:25:07] you know so whenever you have an action figure or an action toy of any kind and as long as it has some sort of anthropomorphic expression in its face and body you can't really play dinner party with with it
[00:25:26] you know all my action toys were like grinning and screaming and you know in a in a pose like they were about to get into a fight and the tiger were in this forever stale I'm looking for the right word
[00:25:54] like this eternal frozen pose of battle you know and but then sometimes you want to play like different games I for instance had this thing with my action figures my Star Wars figures that I wanted to play like this romantic games with them when I got to that age
[00:26:19] I wanted them to kiss and such and it's very hard to play romance with two people who have expressions in their faces like I'm I'm here to kill you you know like it's me or you one of us only one of us is getting out of here alive you know and then these two faces are approaching each other with this expression of fear and anger and frustration
[00:26:47] and panic in their faces and then you force them to kiss I mean it's so symbolic and weird and and also very hard to invite like he man or skeleton for lunch in Barbies dream house for instance and this happened a few times and they sat down at the table with their bones with their legs like
[00:27:15] they couldn't bend them at the right angle so they just you set them on the chair and they set with their legs like straight out you know it's it's almost I mean imagine the force behind that sort of a way to sit and then you know you serve them tea and stuff and they looked like they were about to break the table
[00:27:41] and the tea pot and Barbie and and that was a very unsettling dinner guest or tea guest yeah about desserts it's a thing in so many science fiction films and also games and TV series shows
[00:28:13] and desert planets are like very over represented I know why or at least I believe I know why it's deserts are like this it's maybe it may be easier to find this desert resembling environment to shoot a show in then it is to find
[00:28:39] a snow planet or snow environment or jungle environment I guess it's easier to just go at least if you're recording in Europe or
[00:28:51] or America or Asia or wherever really and they're like this whole variety of different sand stone rock environments quite close to where people live
[00:29:12] and I guess that's why so many planets whenever you watch the Star Wars series or the films or whenever you look at I mean yeah you could see like okay so it's another desert you know then again of course it's
[00:29:31] I guess deserts are really maybe deserts are the most common environment on like rocky planets at all since there's so few of the planets that that contain life as far as we know anyway the planets we can see around us
[00:29:52] and I guess desert is the best way to describe those landscapes but I would like to I mean all the planets in the Star Wars universe for instance are inhabited and have like weather systems that are okay you know you can go out and you can be outside
[00:30:20] and you can hang your laundry and you can take a walk it can be like a really harsh environment and there can be foes in the vicinity but I mean if you look at a planet like Venus
[00:30:40] I would like to see more planets like that in any science fiction I mean Star Trek the same with the old and the new Star Trek episodes and films like this so much desert and the desert is always like California you know
[00:31:01] and I don't believe that is actually I would like to see you know Millennium Falcon landing on a planet with an atmospheric pressure like it's impossible to even be there and the you can't see like the hand in front of you because there's so dense the atmosphere is so dense and there's so much
[00:31:30] fog and and heat you know I mean the the actual conditions on planets are far more variable varied than it is portrayed in this science fiction movies and I would like to see science fiction
[00:31:52] with worlds that are not simply not inhabitable I would love to see and I also would love to see science fiction where space can be space I know that I I've recently talked about science fiction I'm sorry if you're bored with this now but then again it's really my game you know I'm not trying to bore you but if you are that's okay because this I don't prepare
[00:32:22] but I would like to let space be space in the in the popular cultural stories about space space is a very you know it's very easy to understand it's you can wrap your brain and your hands around it
[00:32:50] you go out in a spaceship and you went you go to this planet and you land on this planet but space isn't like that I mean it that the distances are so vast that it's really not any point really of even thinking about distance
[00:33:08] and of course in many of these movies you can you can curl curl up space you can go to hyperspace or whatever and but it's I think it's taking away it's taking away some of the mind grappling mind rippling vastness of it all
[00:33:32] and when you see a spaceship in a show and they pick up an and a distress signal from some vehicle do you know how small the odds are of something ever encountering anything
[00:33:51] in space like it's so small it's so microscopically insignificant that it's really I think sometimes the more interesting angle in a space film would be to just try and interpret and tell the story about not running into anything in a million million million years
[00:34:19] that is actually more exciting to me to try and wrap my brain around because you know space isn't a city when you go out and you just yeah I went out and then I saw a homeless person and then I went by this store and then I heard someone crying in an alley and I went there and I asked what's wrong and she told me that she lost her parents and she
[00:34:47] was in the warehouse on the other side of the street and you help her find her parents and none of this thing none of these things happen so I mean a space fairer a traveler through space interdimensional intergalactical space is really one who is for some reason giving up everything
[00:35:18] that means you're alive in a way and I don't see anyone anyone talking about this except maybe the Swedish author Harry Martinsson in his great great book Anni Aura if you haven't read it it's available in any language
[00:35:40] he got the Nobel Prize like in the 60s I think and I haven't read anything else by Harry Martinsson except for Anni Aura
[00:35:56] I don't know how good the translations to for instance English is but if you can read Swedish then please read Anni Aura and if you and I mean it's just one click away in I mean it must be translated to almost any language in the world by now
[00:36:21] he really aimed me into this thinking about space as this eternal no not eternal that's a sloppy word to use because we don't really know but an eternity also it brings in a lot of philosophy that's not really what I'm aiming for here I think that time and space becomes unimportant in space
[00:36:54] it's almost like you become non-existent and it's a really very nagging thought that we are all in space you know but we have this protective shield around us that lets us experience time in like this very rapid pace because our time you and me our time together
[00:37:26] our sleep is like this ever-exploding ant world because like just a few meters above our heads time is like this almost standstill dimension of nothingness and I really find it please don't if you find this terrifying please just think of something else for a while
[00:38:01] but I want to say that I'm not trying to mess with you I am truly fascinated and for me and maybe this can rub off on you if you don't have the same view for me the thought of a timeless time a spaceless space is like this very comforting thought because sometimes I feel like
[00:38:31] the stuff that we call life here that is our life here down here on earth is overbearingly rapid and I am longing for these deep vast beats that is space you know and the fact that I know that I belong to this
[00:39:06] that all the atoms in my body are like you know remnants of this the slow dark beats of space I it really makes me feel whole and I think I feel like I have worth not because I'm a part of some grand scheme or plan
[00:39:37] because I'm not sure I believe that but because you know just because I am you know because there's nothing that differs me from where I originally came from you know from the particles that build me I'm sure I'm very very hard to comprehend right now
[00:40:04] I started out with He-Man and now I'm in this philosophical brainstorm thing that it really it's a really warm topic for me to think about and I would like to see or read or listen to a story where you go
[00:40:43] onto a spaceship and then there's nothing you know more outside you don't run into anything you don't collide with anything it's always you know you get into this tiny little spaceship and you go out in space
[00:41:03] and then you get attacked by evil aliens with evil underwear and they attack you how did they even find you in the first place I mean how how is it possible that this microscopic little dot of a dot of a dot
[00:41:21] can find another microscopic part of a little dot in this huge vacuum how do you do that what type of technology can send out these types of sonar or whatever how do you determine where everyone is when you can't even see stuff that's close to you in relation to the stars
[00:41:54] and then you go onto this small spaceship and you get attacked by aliens and then you end up in an asteroid field and the asteroids are like so tightly packed you know so you almost crash
[00:42:12] and it's the same thing with that in the is it called a coupier belt the asteroid belt like just outside Jupiter I think or is it further out I don't remember anymore
[00:42:26] the asteroids there they can be as big as Pluto but and they can be as small as gravel and it can be like millions of kilometers between them it's not it's not like this tightly packed you know like a gravel pit on earth
[00:42:50] so I would like to read here see a space eep E-POS a space drama a space story about two people going onto spaceship a very cozy and nice spaceship just sitting down and talk about their day leaving earth
[00:43:22] and waving goodbye to earth and as earth slowly decimates behind them they start to talk about their own lives and their feelings and their accomplishments and their failures
[00:43:38] because that's really all they have left now all it's like they're instantly turning into old people like really old people because they're not going to arrive anywhere
[00:43:53] they're not going to see or find anything they you know it's a freeze frame it's a freeze it's a it's a the moment has frozen you know but I mean I don't mean that in a negative sense it's beautiful
[00:44:16] I think it's beautiful because what I always think that science fiction popular science fiction lacks is the element of humanity that really get emphasized when everything else around said humans is being stripped away
[00:44:42] I really love to I love to read this author called Ray Bradbury when I was little he I little when I was like a teenager I read the illustrated man and I was so taken by his stories they were of course written like 20 years before I read them
[00:45:08] but it's they really spoke to me because it's well he was like a bit of a black mirror inspiration I believe the show and I don't know if that's the case but some of his novels are really similar to like a lot of black mirror episodes
[00:45:29] and he I've always been very fascinated by his dialogues and his way of exposing like individuals in the middle of very dystopic and at the same time like very fascinating and beautiful themes
[00:45:57] like he had this novel about an astronaut fallen out of a spaceship and plumbing to get towards Earth and the whole novel was just his thoughts as he plunged into plumbing
[00:46:18] okay now I spoke Swedish okay okay I'm losing it and at the same time my Apple Watch reminded me that I should take a while and just meditate
[00:46:32] okay I'm not going to do that right now but thank you Apple Watch you really helped me so I will meditate after is that okay with you Apple Watch
[00:46:47] okay so he was plunging towards Earth and his certain demise and the whole novel was just his thoughts and there were no fear
[00:47:00] and I don't remember the name of this novel but it was beautiful and he thinks that I will I will light up in the atmosphere
[00:47:17] and that will be the end of it he's thinking to himself and then there is this in the end of the novel there's this kid on Earth who looks up at the sky
[00:47:30] and says look mommy a falling star and his mom says oh you need to make a wish so beautiful I don't know why
[00:47:46] I really think it's so yeah it really speaks to me you know how one thing can be something completely different on the other side
[00:47:57] seem from another perspective and also there's something very reassuring to me that space around me doesn't really care
[00:48:06] that I am on this floating rock and it's not cynical and or evil or thought out it just is and I'm a part of it and I belong here
[00:48:20] and I really think that that gives me so much more sense of belonging and comfort than if I were to be a product of this plan
[00:48:36] you know with something I need to perform otherwise I will be this and that I really think that the universe itself is explanation enough in all its
[00:48:57] unimaginability is that even a word unimaginability unimaginabilitation I don't know and I also read this novel by Rebre Brebre
[00:49:15] and I don't know the English name of it but it was in Swedish it was called like roughly translated to the last night of the world
[00:49:26] and it was a man and a woman it was a couple and they were having this very timid nice dinner and the whole novel is just it's written in dialogue
[00:49:44] so it's just their conversation and they have both come to understand that this is the last night of the world that the world would just disappear
[00:49:57] please if you don't if you think that this is scary you can just think of something else
[00:50:02] I really want to point out something sleepy to you right now in this hour of the podcast
[00:50:13] sometimes I talk about stuff that some people find troubling or scary or triggering or whatever
[00:50:23] and I'm sorry if that happens I'm not trying to it's not my you know it's not my meaning to do those things to you by talking about certain stuff
[00:50:37] it's just that I can't really talk about stuff that I know will offend no one I don't work that way
[00:50:44] so if you find some of my material like that you don't like it or it doesn't do anything for your or it's okay you know
[00:50:56] but I want to say that sometimes it helps in my experience to just try and look at scary stuff from another perspective
[00:51:07] and maybe my perspective right now can be that other perspective because I very seldom speak of things that I might find myself find scary
[00:51:17] I don't find the last night of the world in this poetic essence scary so with that said they sit there and they talk very calmly
[00:51:33] it's they have a very cozy nice soft dinner together and they talk about their lives you know like the couple I talked about getting on that spaceship
[00:51:50] they talk about their day and they talk about stuff that makes them happy but it's not an euphoric moment it's very thoughtful and loving
[00:52:03] and they listen to each other and they ask each other questions and they don't have any cravings or needs in any acute manner
[00:52:13] they just sit there and talk and they wonder what's gonna happen because no one really knows they don't know how exactly the world will end
[00:52:23] it's not implied in any part of the text that it's for some reason it's just like a chapter it's a book
[00:52:31] like it's a book being closed you know and they kiss and they are going to bed
[00:52:45] and then I think it's the woman who comes up with something and she gets out of the room and goes to the bathroom
[00:52:52] and when she comes back the guy asks her what did you do and she says I left the water running in the sink
[00:53:04] and then they start to laugh and then the novel is over and I freaking love that
[00:53:12] I don't know why but it's sort of a last rebellious act in a way
[00:53:21] that you know I don't want to go gently into the night you know I want to make it a bit messy and a bit uncomprehensible at the very end
[00:53:38] and it's so beautiful it's beautiful because it creates questions you know
[00:53:51] and all of this can be very isolated in space
[00:53:57] so ironically whenever you have this vastness around you and you are just contained within this little paper thin shell
[00:54:12] that is the spaceship although you are so exposed and so out there in a real sense
[00:54:21] it's almost like you're packed in this very thick box where you can look
[00:54:30] one can look at you through a magnifying glass everything that is you becomes so very clear when you are
[00:54:41] in the contrast of this nothingness that space is and that is what I would like to see
[00:54:47] I would like to see Miss Julie by August Strimberg I would like to see that play taking place in a spaceship
[00:54:55] I would like to see like yeah well any really any classic what do you call it chamber drama
[00:55:14] in Sweden we say kammar spiel it's like a play that's really just taking place in one room
[00:55:22] and the character is coming home from this room and it's a very tight and intimate way of doing theater
[00:55:31] it can be anyway so I would like to see this chamber drama in space
[00:55:41] I would love to see that on a stage but I don't know I get the question so many times
[00:55:50] why do you love space so much and I'm not like particularly interested in space itself
[00:55:58] because it's really nothing you know of course there's things there but the main majority
[00:56:05] of space around us is just that emptiness and it puts really I think it puts
[00:56:14] it really puts the light on us because I mean isn't it freakin marvelous sleepy that we're here
[00:56:26] in the middle of this nothingness and it doesn't make me scared it makes me I love this
[00:56:35] I love to live I love being alive I love being you know one of the people here
[00:56:50] and I love it even more when I think about what surrounds us and we become so important don't you think
[00:57:06] we become almost like children you know okay so now I'm really yeah okay I'm sorry this sounds like
[00:57:20] I'm preaching but I mean I was trying to say something that almost everyone can agree is
[00:57:28] like this very sacred thing and I guess I was going to say gold but then gold sounds so vulgar in a way
[00:57:36] because gold is just this you know it's not built into us to automatically appreciate gold
[00:57:44] but it is built into us biologically in most of us anyway to automatically think that babies are cute
[00:57:53] and that they need to be taken care of and to feel a sense of responsibility towards children our own or others
[00:58:01] and that's what I was aiming for with this analogy we all become as sacred as kids you know
[00:58:18] and that's so beautiful don't you think I really personally think that all this is possible
[00:58:32] the way we see each other and our lives here together in our good moments all of this is possible
[00:58:43] because we're surrounded by this empty void and I really love you sleepy for being here with me in this empty void around us
[00:58:53] I really love you for being my companion on this trip because it's all we really have is all we know
[00:59:07] and I would like to be a person that always remembers this I am in a way in the same universe as he man
[00:59:21] although he doesn't really stand the test of time as well as well you know almost anything else
[00:59:32] today if I wanted to pitch a new show I wouldn't present this semi nude man in armored fluffy underwear
[00:59:42] with an arch nemesis with skeleton face and human very very well nourished body
[00:59:52] with the growth hormone shots hanging out of their butt cheeks I wouldn't want to present that to the network
[01:00:02] maybe I would tell a story about a different type of male maybe I would try and tell a story about another type of hero
[01:00:14] but isn't it quite amazing that strength physical strength was the go to factor regarding heroes for so many years
[01:00:29] that physical strength was actually the winning thing in human culture for I don't know how many thousands of years
[01:00:40] that's also very interesting thing to be alive and to watch that this is changing now that the classical strong man is not really
[01:00:51] the hot stuff anymore we need something else and maybe that's you sleepy

