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[00:02:49] Hi and welcome to Fall Asleep with Henrik.

[00:03:01] I'm Henrik and you're sleepy.

[00:03:08] And it is what it is.

[00:03:13] What happens happens.

[00:03:17] And right now there's nothing we can do.

[00:03:21] Let's begin.

[00:03:25] Hi sleepy and welcome back to another questionable episode of this weird idea for me to just

[00:03:35] talk without editing anything out and without preparing anything in terms of scripting.

[00:03:45] I have a lot of thoughts going into recording this podcast.

[00:03:52] But I never prepare and I never write anything down.

[00:04:02] Sometimes I can ask ChatGPT to give me suggestions of funny topics and stuff but generally it

[00:04:12] never works out the way I want it to anyway.

[00:04:16] So it's best just to press record and then see what happens.

[00:04:27] So welcome to this podcast.

[00:04:32] I guess the main purpose is to put you under, to help you fall asleep.

[00:04:42] Or if it doesn't do that maybe help you drift away.

[00:04:50] And if it doesn't do that then maybe just don't listen to the podcast.

[00:04:58] This podcast is a very wide dimensional space.

[00:05:07] You can use my voice for whatever reason you might consider.

[00:05:15] Listen to me if you want to just be distracted for a while.

[00:05:20] Because this is just train of thought.

[00:05:23] I just open my mouth and words come out.

[00:05:28] Since I'm doing this in my second language, English, which doesn't come quite so natural

[00:05:35] to me.

[00:05:38] I am not the best at it.

[00:05:42] And I guess in this case it's a win because it doesn't matter what dialect I use when

[00:05:51] I speak because you don't have to listen.

[00:05:57] My hope is that me, the person behind the broken English will be visible to you because

[00:06:06] I'm not trying to constrain myself.

[00:06:09] I'm not trying to show you something that isn't true.

[00:06:12] I'm just speaking.

[00:06:18] And you can press play and then you can just let me babble in the background.

[00:06:27] A so-called background babble.

[00:06:31] Or you can listen actively and try to make sense of what I say.

[00:06:36] And I'm going to emphasize this.

[00:06:40] I'm not trying to bore you.

[00:06:42] It's just that since I don't prepare anything and since I don't write anything down or

[00:06:50] edit anything out, boredom will happen eventually.

[00:06:57] But I don't think boredom is necessarily the preferred outcome.

[00:07:05] I believe in distraction.

[00:07:06] I believe that distraction is the preferred outcome.

[00:07:10] And that is what's been, I guess, my unique selling point in creating this podcast

[00:07:19] in Sweden because that's where I create the most of my podcast episodes.

[00:07:28] So this podcast is the English version of the Swedish podcast Somna med Henrik, which

[00:07:39] in Swedish means fall asleep with Henrik, which is coincidentally the title of the

[00:07:47] podcast you're right now listening to.

[00:07:52] Okay, so since last time we spoke sleepy, there's been a number of changes.

[00:08:01] First of all, I made a formal decision that I'm going to take this seriously for two

[00:08:07] months.

[00:08:09] So in two months, I will make another assessment.

[00:08:15] And if I come to the conclusion that this is doable in the long term, I will continue

[00:08:24] to make this podcast for the English speaking world.

[00:08:31] In order for me to determine whether or not this podcast is doable in the long term,

[00:08:38] I need mainly two things.

[00:08:42] And now I just said I needed mainly two things and now I need to come up with

[00:08:46] them because I really can only think of one thing, really.

[00:08:51] So I'll start with that.

[00:08:53] It's the number of listens per month.

[00:08:59] I'm sorry to bore you, but then again, maybe you like that.

[00:09:04] I don't know.

[00:09:07] So the number of listens per month, it's a difference between listeners like

[00:09:21] unique listeners and the number of listens.

[00:09:25] I think, I mean one listener can generate several listens.

[00:09:31] I think the counter resets every 24 hours or so.

[00:09:36] But my main goal with these first two months is to reach 10,000 listens per month.

[00:09:48] It's very modest, but it's a bare minimum to make a podcast be referred to as somewhat

[00:09:59] of a success.

[00:10:04] For what do you say?

[00:10:11] For reference, I could mention that the Swedish version of this podcast has like

[00:10:19] between five and six hundred thousand listens each month, but that's in Swedish.

[00:10:26] I don't know if this podcast has what it takes to make it into the big world.

[00:10:34] So that's for me to determine.

[00:10:39] And then again, and then it was the second, which I didn't have an answer for, but

[00:10:46] now I need to come up with it.

[00:10:49] I guess it depends on whether or not I get feedback from you or you sleepies.

[00:10:59] I need your feedback and I'm not trying to push you or press you into doing anything

[00:11:03] because of course you should do whatever you like.

[00:11:07] But if you have it in you, if you've been reaching out to others at some other

[00:11:14] point in your life, please reach out to me and tell me what you think of this.

[00:11:20] And please tell your friends that this podcast exists if you wanted to continue,

[00:11:26] that is.

[00:11:28] And please give me a review on the platform that you're listening to this

[00:11:33] podcast on.

[00:11:36] I don't mean it to put it on you, but it's the hard facts and and I

[00:11:45] recently came to terms with that myself.

[00:11:49] Because I was so.

[00:11:52] You know, you find stuff that you like and then you enjoy it for a while and

[00:11:58] then it goes away and you get mad because why did it go away?

[00:12:02] I like this.

[00:12:03] And then I had to ask myself, but did you like tell anyone?

[00:12:08] Did you tell the producer of the show or whatever?

[00:12:12] Or did you just think that this was going to be here forever?

[00:12:17] And without any means of knowing whether or not people liked it.

[00:12:25] And that's important to me, I guess.

[00:12:27] I don't want to waste my time being useless.

[00:12:34] Just being this weird Swedish dude sitting in his studio, speaking and

[00:12:44] being increasingly irrelevant.

[00:12:48] I don't want that.

[00:12:49] Then I want to spend my energy on stuff that creates positivity and a good

[00:13:00] vibe, a good place.

[00:13:05] So that's what I want to do.

[00:13:08] So that's one thing.

[00:13:10] The one thing that's been happening since last time we spoke.

[00:13:17] There's also and I'm very glad to say this.

[00:13:22] There's been a couple of thousand new listeners, which is, I mean,

[00:13:28] considering I had zero listeners from the beginning, it's actually quite the

[00:13:39] feat. What do you say?

[00:13:41] Quite the...

[00:13:43] Oh God.

[00:13:47] It's a very good thing that I now can consider some of you real sleepies.

[00:13:55] Thank you for all the emails and DMs.

[00:13:59] You can also, if you want, you can follow me on Instagram and YouTube and

[00:14:05] wherever you're on social media, if you want to reach out to me that way.

[00:14:13] So thank you for that.

[00:14:14] And I mean, of course, a lot of this has to do with the fact that I was

[00:14:19] mentioned so very graciously by Jonna Jinton.

[00:14:24] And I know, sorry, Jonna, I know you're listening and I'm sorry.

[00:14:28] I'm not going to talk about you each and every episode because it's, I

[00:14:34] know that it, I know you fall asleep to this as well.

[00:14:37] And I don't want you to like wake up and did he say my name?

[00:14:42] What is it? Where am I?

[00:14:43] And then rush out in the darkness and wondering what's going on.

[00:14:52] So sorry, but I guess one last time, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[00:15:01] So many of you are here because you follow Jonna and she talked about me

[00:15:07] in her latest YouTube vlog.

[00:15:14] But also I want to say this.

[00:15:16] I also run an ad for this podcast and it's so exciting to see people

[00:15:25] actually come in here as a result of seeing the ad.

[00:15:30] Thank you, whoever you are.

[00:15:37] And now I guess I've been talking like almost 15 minutes about what

[00:15:44] this is and how I do it.

[00:15:48] So I guess we should put that behind us.

[00:15:55] I'm sorry if you've been listening to this podcast for a while.

[00:16:02] I guess it's kind of frustrating that I keep repeating what this podcast is all about.

[00:16:10] But at the same time, I know you understand that I need to do this

[00:16:14] because I'm in a growth phase and I need to let new people know what this is about.

[00:16:29] I could really go deep today.

[00:16:31] I could dive like through the very veil of existence and just touch things

[00:16:42] that are moving deep beneath the surface of ourselves.

[00:16:48] It would be weird and wonderful to do that in English.

[00:16:52] I do this all the time during my meditation practices and also in my Swedish podcasts.

[00:16:59] I just open my mouth and just let words I never thought about come up.

[00:17:12] There is this game that when I was 17 years old, OK, so now everyone who's from

[00:17:19] Sweden and has been listening to my podcasts a lot know what's about to hit the fan.

[00:17:27] It's a game called Dagens Boktips.

[00:17:33] It's actually a very funny game and I've never tried it in English before.

[00:17:37] And this could go like either way.

[00:17:40] This could be the end of my career as I know it, or this could be the beginning

[00:17:44] of something beautiful and worldwide.

[00:17:48] OK, so first of all, I need to tell you about the situation.

[00:17:55] Last episode, I told you about my friend Marcus.

[00:17:59] He and I, we were like 16 or 17 years old and we went to this high school.

[00:18:11] And we studied media like video and audio and photography and theater.

[00:18:23] And Marcus was in the class below me, but we hit it off instantly.

[00:18:31] My first memory of Marcus is he was really drunk and he had this six pack of beer,

[00:18:39] not the actual beers, but the paper carton that surrounds the beer.

[00:18:43] He had it on his head like a crown and he like throwed himself at me and told me

[00:18:51] he thought I was cool because I had been the leader of the initiation

[00:18:58] ceremony when he started.

[00:19:00] I was in year one then.

[00:19:03] I don't know what you call it, a first grader.

[00:19:09] So anyway, we became best friends and that was the beginning of a 20 year old long,

[00:19:21] almost uninterrupted coexistence, I should say.

[00:19:26] And I really love him for that.

[00:19:28] And I miss it.

[00:19:29] Now we live on different places and we don't have as much contact as we used to.

[00:19:36] But we went because we had a dream about making a fantasy film.

[00:19:40] And at that time, digital cameras were not even a thing yet.

[00:19:46] This was in 1992 and we went to a little Swedish town called Falköping.

[00:19:58] Because in Falköping there was this medieval village still running like a museum of sorts

[00:20:08] called Åsletå.

[00:20:11] And we went there to do a reconnaissance.

[00:20:22] We were trying to scope out the place because we wanted to go there and make a fantasy

[00:20:28] film on VHS.

[00:20:32] We thought that it would be much easier than it actually would have been.

[00:20:39] We didn't really know what's needed to make a film.

[00:20:43] It wasn't as easy as now.

[00:20:45] I mean, I remember when we used to do like moving camera stuff.

[00:20:55] Now you can just have a gimbal or something and put your iPhone on it and just do

[00:21:00] very smooth moving camera movements.

[00:21:06] But then you couldn't just walk with it because these VHS cameras, they were very big and

[00:21:12] you had them on your shoulder.

[00:21:14] And when you were trying to make like if you're trying to move in on a person,

[00:21:21] a moving camera, then you always got like a very shaky image.

[00:21:31] So what we did, and I mean, I'm baffled by the effort that we put in.

[00:21:38] I mean, because we were just students and no one was ever going to watch what we

[00:21:42] did.

[00:21:45] So we went to the Swedish television.

[00:21:48] Swedish state television had an office right next to our high school.

[00:21:58] So we went there and we borrowed like this huge rail and a wagon, like a big wooden

[00:22:09] platform on metallic wheels.

[00:22:11] And the rails were like you put them together like Legos and you made this long,

[00:22:17] long rail and it weighed like several hundred kilos.

[00:22:27] And imagine two small teenage boys like dragging these things around.

[00:22:34] And today you just take your iPhone on a gimbal and you don't have to do anything.

[00:22:41] So I mean, that was not what I was going to...

[00:22:44] We were in Åslåta and we were looking at this place because we were fantasizing

[00:22:48] about recording our own epic fantasy film.

[00:22:55] We had been watching the film Willow, the original movie, not the crappy series

[00:23:00] from last year.

[00:23:02] And oh my God, that series was crappy.

[00:23:08] I'm sorry, I don't want to offend anyone, but it was like...

[00:23:12] But I liked it anyway because it was so out there.

[00:23:18] Okay, anyway, so we wanted to do something like that.

[00:23:22] And Marcus had been studying as an apprentice at this paintbrush artist and he had come

[00:23:32] to terms with the method of matte painting, which was very common and still is,

[00:23:38] but now it's done digitally.

[00:23:41] But by then and like for decades earlier, matte painting was something they did in

[00:23:49] films when they wanted a background or an environment to have elements in them that

[00:23:57] wasn't there at the actual location where they shot the movie.

[00:24:02] Many examples of this in Star Wars, for instance.

[00:24:05] And at that time, they painted it on glass and just put it up in front of the camera.

[00:24:12] So for instance, if you wanted a castle in the desert, you painted the castle and

[00:24:21] you're just on glass and then you just put it in front of the camera and film

[00:24:29] the actors and the actual environment.

[00:24:32] And if done properly, it all seemed very seamless.

[00:24:38] It seemed like the same environment.

[00:24:42] So we walked around at this medieval museum village and we fantasized about how

[00:24:49] we were going to do this matte painting project, very ambitious.

[00:24:57] And we very early on developed sort of a very specific way of talking to each other.

[00:25:09] A very internal communication style that was just our own, built for us by us.

[00:25:22] And one of the things we came up with when we were waiting for the train back

[00:25:26] to this little town that we went to school in, we came up with this game

[00:25:34] called in Swedish it's called Dagens Boktips.

[00:25:39] In English you would probably say Book of the Day.

[00:25:45] So from now on, I'm naming this game Book of the Day.

[00:25:52] And I would like you, Sleepy, to practice this game by yourself or with your friends

[00:26:04] and spread it around the world and send me the results because it's beautiful.

[00:26:09] It's a very funny game.

[00:26:11] I'm not sure yet how this will work for me to do it in English.

[00:26:16] And I'm going to be very, very careful now to really describe it to you.

[00:26:30] So the game is, it's an improvisation game.

[00:26:35] It's a game about letting your mind go and saying stuff that you haven't prepared.

[00:26:41] Much like I'm doing now but in a total more uncensored way.

[00:26:49] I mean, when I speak now, it's more of a, I imagine a dialogue.

[00:26:56] I imagine you the listener, the sleepy.

[00:27:03] I visualize you in a way, in a very amorphic way.

[00:27:12] So Book of the Day is, you can either say this yourself or you can ask your friend to say it.

[00:27:19] If you're two or more, it becomes funnier.

[00:27:22] But with that said, I'm doing this by myself like all the time.

[00:27:27] So the rules are one person, it could be you or anyone else, say Book of the Day.

[00:27:37] You can also start the whole thing with a sound.

[00:27:42] In Sweden we just say doying, Dagens boktips.

[00:27:49] So you can just say doying, Book of the Day.

[00:27:51] So doying is like the signal.

[00:27:54] And that's me saying doying, Book of the Day to you is like me challenging you to

[00:28:05] present the Book of the Day.

[00:28:08] And the Book of the Day is a fictional book that you just come up with.

[00:28:17] So what you're going to do when I say doying, Book of the Day, you're going to say the

[00:28:25] first thing that comes up in your mind.

[00:28:29] And then you're going to say by and then you're going to say the first name or word

[00:28:36] or whatever that comes up in your mind, that being the author.

[00:28:41] So what you do is like you say the title and then you say by and then you say

[00:28:45] the author.

[00:28:46] So the title and the author are improvised elements in this game.

[00:28:52] But before you start, you need to know one thing.

[00:28:56] You can't just say the glittering mountains like because I just came up with this.

[00:29:05] But that's not the kind of improvisation I'm talking about.

[00:29:12] And now this is where it gets interesting because I've never tried this in English

[00:29:16] before.

[00:29:19] OK, so when I mean improvise, I'm not talking about like if I see a curtain, I'm just

[00:29:26] going to say blue curtain by the curtain author or whatever.

[00:29:33] Because that's not how you do Book of the Day.

[00:29:39] What you do is like you open your mouth and you just let whatever is in there come out

[00:29:46] and you can't censor yourself or steer yourself.

[00:29:54] Eventually you're going to need to do that anyway, because otherwise it will just be

[00:30:00] guttural noises like by.

[00:30:05] So that doesn't make any sense and it's not very fun.

[00:30:09] So I guess some steering is involved, but you can't let the steering come too early.

[00:30:18] You need to let the rawness of your own mind because believe me, it's raw in there.

[00:30:28] It's a very raw place.

[00:30:31] You need to let that come first and then you can steer it so that it makes sense.

[00:30:40] I dread doing this now because I know there's just recently when I do this in Swedish,

[00:30:49] I come up with all these inappropriate things.

[00:30:52] It's just the nature of it because I'm a public person and I need to think about

[00:31:01] what I say and every time I just open my mouth, then there's this neurotic fear about me

[00:31:12] saying something unforgivable and then I will be cancelled.

[00:31:17] But you don't have to make any of these precautions because this is a game and you're

[00:31:24] just going to open your mouth and let whatever is inside there come out.

[00:31:31] So I emphasize this as this is a game.

[00:31:34] So okay, Book of the Day could sound something like this.

[00:31:40] Doing Book of the Day.

[00:31:41] Why are my house crying by Derek Bluese?

[00:31:49] You got it?

[00:31:51] Why are my house crying?

[00:31:53] Why are my house crying?

[00:31:55] So there was a grammatical error there because Derek Bluese.

[00:32:02] Okay I'm going to give it one more try.

[00:32:06] Doing Book of the Day.

[00:32:08] Police Protective Party by Nagel Baren.

[00:32:16] Police Protective Party by Nagel Baren.

[00:32:22] You can extend this game by reading from that actual book and then you just read

[00:32:30] the whole passage in the same way that you came up with the title and the author.

[00:32:36] I'm not going to do that because if you like this game, then tell me and I will

[00:32:41] do more of it.

[00:32:45] It's been very popular in Sweden among my listeners.

[00:32:52] When Marcus and I came back from fall shopping, the film never got made obviously because

[00:33:02] I mean two kids with one VHS camera and no sound equipment and no lighting.

[00:33:13] Can't just go two of them to fall shopping and start filming an epic fantasy adventure

[00:33:20] with the only real knowledge is an approximation about how to do math painting.

[00:33:32] We had no actors, nothing.

[00:33:35] So of course it didn't get made.

[00:33:38] We made a science fiction movie though as a final production before we finished high

[00:33:48] school and it was called Tales from Outer Space, the greatest space adventure ever

[00:33:55] told.

[00:33:56] And it was some sort of a we did it in English but it's very lousy performed

[00:34:06] but we actually it was actually a hugely ambitious project.

[00:34:12] It was half an hour long.

[00:34:13] We had like 20 or 30 actors, extras and actors.

[00:34:19] We played ourselves different characters and it was a comedy like in the style of Rotten

[00:34:27] Tomatoes.

[00:34:28] No, not, I should use one language.

[00:34:37] It was made in the style of the attack of the killer tomatoes.

[00:34:43] If you don't know that movie, you can just search for it.

[00:34:48] And some of the scenes we just ripped right out of the return of the killer tomatoes,

[00:34:54] the attack of the killer tomatoes because we didn't know what copyright infringement

[00:35:00] was back in 1994.

[00:35:06] Well we never show it to anyone.

[00:35:11] Anyway, so we started to spread that game Book of the Day and when I started actor

[00:35:25] school in 1995, I took the game with me and it became an exercise in improvisation

[00:35:39] in actor school in Gothenburg.

[00:35:43] So then there was this variety of actors coming up from school with that game that

[00:35:50] Marcus and I came up with on this train station in Fallköping in 1992.

[00:35:57] And then I introduced it to my listeners in Somna med Henrik.

[00:36:03] And now I'm teaching it to you so that you can bring it out in the world.

[00:36:09] So okay, I'm going to do one more and then I'm going to let you do it if you're still

[00:36:15] awake.

[00:36:19] Okay, doing Book of the Day.

[00:36:22] How are you?

[00:36:24] No, okay.

[00:36:25] So now you see now you see what it's it's harder for me because this is in my second

[00:36:31] language.

[00:36:32] I've never I mean this.

[00:36:35] I've never tried this in English before doing Book of the Day.

[00:36:42] Galberg police man.

[00:36:46] No, it's not funny.

[00:36:48] It's not funny.

[00:36:49] I need to let loose.

[00:36:52] I guess I'm a bit scared because I've it really feels strange.

[00:36:59] Okay, first I'm going to do it in Swedish and then you can hear what it sounds like

[00:37:04] in Swedish.

[00:37:05] Doing Dagens Boktips.

[00:37:09] Okay, so the title was sort of The Sandwich is My Oh, I forgot now.

[00:37:29] The Sandwich is my autumn colored comfort fest by an author called Bombi Bitto Ja.

[00:37:41] Bombi Bitts and Me, which is a novel by a Swedish author called Fritschof Nilsson

[00:37:48] Piraten.

[00:37:50] Fritschof Nilsson the pirate.

[00:37:52] That's his artist name.

[00:37:55] He's dead.

[00:37:56] But yeah.

[00:37:57] Okay, so now I'm going to try it in English again.

[00:38:05] Doing Book of the Day.

[00:38:08] More of Papa's Farts by Emma Baldwin.

[00:38:18] Yes, that was actually that was a very good title.

[00:38:21] More of Papa's Farts by Emma Baldwin.

[00:38:26] Now I'm going to read you an excerpt out of this book.

[00:38:31] More of Papa's Farts.

[00:38:34] Chapter bank.

[00:38:36] Lo and behold, ten of the bars were traversing clinically depressed persons.

[00:38:47] Now will be many brudren hanging from Prague.

[00:38:54] Funky part.

[00:38:57] Nor nor like you bloody parsons.

[00:39:02] Me now.

[00:39:04] Oh, it gets so easily.

[00:39:07] It's so easy to just drift into Swedish.

[00:39:11] Okay.

[00:39:13] Okay, you get the idea.

[00:39:14] But now I want to see you do it.

[00:39:18] So please just send me your stuff and I will grade you.

[00:39:24] Because I am and I can't emphasize this enough.

[00:39:28] I am the master of Book of the Day.

[00:39:32] I mean Marcus, of course, he earns a bit of the credit, but he doesn't practice it like I do anymore.

[00:39:42] He doesn't have a podcast where he uses this all the time.

[00:39:54] He's a director and an editor and I can't imagine he will use Book of the Day like I do.

[00:40:01] So I am.

[00:40:04] Please don't go to him.

[00:40:05] Come to me with your Book of the Day questionnaires and I will answer as good, the best I can.

[00:40:17] Moving on.

[00:40:22] I got to say, Sleepy, that I really enjoy our little talks.

[00:40:29] But you don't say much.

[00:40:31] I mean, of course, I'm kidding.

[00:40:34] I know you don't say much or maybe you're babbling away like there's no tomorrow.

[00:40:41] But I can't hear you because this takes place in your past.

[00:40:46] When you listen to this, I've already made the recording.

[00:40:51] We could even be in different time zones.

[00:40:54] So I mean, the distance between us is huge.

[00:41:01] It's like this Grand Canyon of time and space between us.

[00:41:12] That really fascinates me.

[00:41:14] And I come back to this a lot.

[00:41:19] The fact that we are separated by not only space because space.

[00:41:26] I mean, there isn't.

[00:41:31] There's no such thing as spaceless connection.

[00:41:39] Full connection is per definition, by definition, separated.

[00:41:49] Even when you touch someone, it's the pressure that you feel when someone strokes your arm.

[00:41:58] That's actually your subatomic particles pushing away the subatomic particles of the one touching you or the one you're touching.

[00:42:11] So pressure from another body or object is actually the atoms in this other body that pushes you away.

[00:42:25] So touch is really because your atoms can't touch each other.

[00:42:33] No, or is it OK?

[00:42:35] Now I'm OK.

[00:42:36] So this is one more thing to keep in mind when you're listening to fall asleep with Henrik.

[00:42:41] I don't have any real knowledge about anything.

[00:42:45] I just take wild guesses and I theorize a lot.

[00:42:52] So, I mean, I guess it's the electrons that are magnetically charged.

[00:43:01] And that electromagnetic charge is pushing everything else away.

[00:43:10] So that by definition, it's impossible for one electron to touch another electron like physically.

[00:43:20] I'm not sure I could be totally wrong here and feel free to correct me.

[00:43:28] OK, so but everything is separated by space.

[00:43:37] That was my main takeaway from this.

[00:43:43] Everything, even if it feels like it's the closest you've ever been to something or someone.

[00:43:52] You could be crammed together in a drawer, but there would still be miles and miles of microscopic distance between you and the other body.

[00:44:04] Even between the cells in your own body.

[00:44:09] There's a lot of void.

[00:44:11] There's a void.

[00:44:12] So in a way, everything living, being, breathing is like different densities of fog.

[00:44:23] And this is, I mean, don't freak out.

[00:44:25] It's I think it's so cool.

[00:44:28] I think it's so cool that we can live and exist and visualize the world and our own dreams and poetry and love and music and humor.

[00:44:42] I mean, satire.

[00:44:45] We can do all this just being different densities of fog.

[00:44:51] Fog.

[00:44:54] Everything, however dense is surrounded by a void in a way.

[00:45:06] So that's one thing of the of the that's one of the things that really fascinates me about distance.

[00:45:17] Another thing that fascinates me about distance is the distance that you and I have between us in time.

[00:45:28] Because this is recorded before you listen before you listen to it.

[00:45:36] It's I don't want to say exactly when this is recorded because it doesn't.

[00:45:45] This I don't want to time limit the essence of the episode.

[00:45:52] This is a podcast that shouldn't really concern itself with time.

[00:45:57] I mean, when was this public?

[00:45:59] When was this recorded and stuff?

[00:46:01] Sometimes I say but today I'm not going to say I'm going to say that.

[00:46:07] It's been days.

[00:46:10] Since I recorded this until you hear it so and we can we can settle with that.

[00:46:18] And so you and I we are separated in an almost impossible way right now because I'm talking to you in the future.

[00:46:29] That's so fascinating.

[00:46:32] I just can't get enough of this theorizing what that really means because I'm talking to you.

[00:46:42] But you as the you that you are when you listen to this don't exist yet.

[00:46:49] The future you doesn't exist.

[00:46:53] But by the time you listen to my words.

[00:46:57] Fluffing away about about the deep stuff and time and distance.

[00:47:04] Then you exist then you are that you that I was theorizing about.

[00:47:10] Then I really think that's so very beautiful and a great piece of brain candy.

[00:47:25] My brain feels edgy in a nice way.

[00:47:34] I wonder what you'll be like.

[00:47:37] Sleepy of tomorrow.

[00:47:40] I wondering who you will be.

[00:47:43] What you will like and what you will dream of.

[00:47:48] What's your favorite thing right now sleepy?

[00:47:54] I mean, I'm really curious.

[00:47:56] I can't get an immediate response because it's like sending stuff out in space.

[00:48:04] I mean the space as we think of it when we hear the word space like where the planets are.

[00:48:12] And the stars and the void don't freak out.

[00:48:18] It's okay.

[00:48:19] It's okay to use the word void.

[00:48:22] It's not a dangerous word.

[00:48:24] It's just a word and it doesn't really reflect the actual entity of a void anyway.

[00:48:32] We might as well just get used to using words that trigger us or trigger some people.

[00:48:43] Okay, so it's like when I'm talking to you, it's like sending a space probe out into interstellar space.

[00:48:57] Because actually time and space are intertwined.

[00:49:01] So it's from some perspectives, it's a very little difference between sending something out into interstellar space or sending something out in time which I'm doing right now.

[00:49:14] Because from certain points of view, it's the same thing.

[00:49:25] You've probably read or heard about Anne Dryon.

[00:49:31] She's actually one of my favorite people in the world.

[00:49:34] Although I've never met her and I know very little about her.

[00:49:40] But she worked at the Voyager projects back in the 70s.

[00:49:49] She was responsible in some way for the golden records that was going to be put on the Voyager space probes.

[00:50:01] There were two space probes sent out in the 70s from Earth.

[00:50:07] And their mission was to take pictures of the outer solar system and then continue out into interstellar space.

[00:50:16] And they thought that these space probes were going to last for just a few years.

[00:50:23] But I think at least one of them are still sending signals back to Earth.

[00:50:32] And I've been telling this story a lot in my Swedish podcasts, but I might as well just tell you now.

[00:50:38] And you've probably heard it because it's a very famous story.

[00:50:43] It's very romantic and it's very vain.

[00:50:46] And it's a poetic story.

[00:50:50] So she worked at this project on the golden records.

[00:50:57] They had this idea that they were going to put like different graphs and symbols showing some potential future alien that would come across one of the space probes.

[00:51:14] Who we were and why we were where we were.

[00:51:19] And there was also sounds and music from Earth.

[00:51:23] So they were like a mother and a baby.

[00:51:26] There were thunder volcanoes.

[00:51:30] There were music from almost every country in the world and people saying hi in different languages.

[00:51:41] And also a little boy who was the son of Carl Sagan, one of the seniors in this project.

[00:51:52] He was then he was a very famous.

[00:51:55] Astronomist.

[00:51:57] I think it was an astronomer.

[00:52:02] And he said hello from the children of planet Earth.

[00:52:06] And that's a very yeah, it's a quote that's become like immortal even here on Earth.

[00:52:17] And of course, in a literal sense, since the words were then just sent up in space.

[00:52:25] Anyway, during this project and Ryan and Carl Sagan fell in love like this.

[00:52:33] Storm of passion just.

[00:52:37] Surprised them and.

[00:52:44] They wanted to they come she and came up with the idea about.

[00:52:52] Showing this love this hormone storm.

[00:53:00] To the future.

[00:53:04] Alien civilizations that could maybe find the Voyager space probes.

[00:53:13] So she she put electrons all over her body.

[00:53:21] Electrodes electrons now she she put.

[00:53:26] She measured measuring devices and sensors.

[00:53:32] High tech in the 70s all over her body and she meditated in a hospital somewhere.

[00:53:38] And recorded the electrical signals of a human in love.

[00:53:44] So she meditated and she thought about love I guess.

[00:53:51] And then they translated the.

[00:53:56] The signals into a sound.

[00:53:59] And they put it on the record.

[00:54:03] So that somewhere deep in to the void.

[00:54:08] Someone one day maybe could listen to this.

[00:54:12] Human ape in love maybe millions or billions years ago.

[00:54:22] And I think it's so romantic but also is so vain and and therefore also very beautiful.

[00:54:29] Because it's so human right to make up something like that because the odds.

[00:54:37] Really are astronomical in the words literal sense.

[00:54:42] Astronomically small that any anything or anyone would ever find these small.

[00:54:50] Probes in this vast ever expanding universe.

[00:54:57] It's so beautiful and also so I get very warm feelings when I think about it.

[00:55:07] Because it's not just the fact that maybe someone will find the probes one day.

[00:55:13] Because right now they're leaving our solar system and they are entering totally uncharted territory.

[00:55:23] Where the radiation from the sun meets the interstellar radiation sort of like at the front of a boat.

[00:55:36] There's this turbulence when two different kinds of energy collide.

[00:55:44] So the right about there.

[00:55:47] Both of them are right now.

[00:55:49] I guess I think only one of them still sends signals but that's I mean that's amazing considering it's been almost 50 years since they were launched.

[00:56:06] There is also this beautiful image called little blue dot a pale blue dot.

[00:56:14] It's called I think.

[00:56:16] That one of the probes took turned the camera around and photographed Earth from.

[00:56:25] I guess around the orbit of Jupiter and it's just a little pale blue dot far off.

[00:56:35] And on that Carl Sagan wrote very famously.

[00:56:40] Is everything you've ever known about every war every love story.

[00:56:47] Every religion all of it condensed to this little speck of dust.

[00:56:56] It's so beautiful.

[00:57:00] I mean so it's a romantic thing to imagine that somewhere someday some alien civilization will discover the records and maybe even interpret them.

[00:57:11] And just wonder.

[00:57:15] But by then Earth will no longer exist you know and I'm sorry if this gets too existential but I think it's beautiful and I think you should think that it's beautiful too because it's the.

[00:57:28] It's our life you know.

[00:57:31] Whether we like to think of it or not it's our life.

[00:57:35] We're eternal in a way but then also very few tile and.

[00:57:41] Microscopic and I love that I love that collision between forever and.

[00:57:51] Right now.

[00:57:53] Because it's the only way I can make it make sense life you know because there's so much in me that is.

[00:58:05] Fleet full what do you call it it's just water running through.

[00:58:15] It's just water running away under a bridge so and also it's like inside of me there's this huge monument like.

[00:58:28] Something everlasting you know and that's also a part of me I'm both I'm both.

[00:58:34] I'm both very very few tile and at the same time something.

[00:58:43] Huge and everlasting and I'm part of both and you are as well I think and I think that you can say this without being religious in any sense.

[00:58:53] I don't consider myself religious.

[00:58:57] I just love existence you know it's a very fascinating concept and I prefer it any day over the alternative.

[00:59:06] I don't even know if non existence exists.

[00:59:11] You get it I mean how can we know that there is something.

[00:59:18] That is non existent.

[00:59:21] Because at this at the same moment that we mentioned something as non existent it exists immediately spring into existence.

[00:59:34] And of course there are different forms of existence.

[00:59:38] But I mean the only thing that doesn't exist is this thing that is non existent.

[00:59:46] And non existent things are.

[00:59:49] Unexistable because no okay so it's my brain is not.

[00:59:57] Capable of handling these questions so with that said I want to be your voyager in the night.

[01:00:10] Or rather you are the alien civilization.

[01:00:17] And I am and Ryan sending you my deepest inner most feelings and thoughts.

[01:00:27] In hope that you will hear them but not necessarily.

[01:00:34] Do anything with them or make anything out of them.

[01:00:39] Maybe you're even asleep right now and that's very good.

[01:00:43] I would say if you would be happening to sleep right now if you happen to sleep right now sleepy.

[01:00:51] Thank you.

[01:00:52] You made my day here in the past where I dwell at the bottom of a well.

[01:01:01] It's sort of like I'm in the but I'm at the bottom of a deep time well.

[01:01:08] Calling for you up there.

[01:01:11] What's it like up there in the future.

[01:01:15] When I get there you will be way ahead of me.

[01:01:20] Because whenever I get up there I will just discover that there is another well I need to climb.

[01:01:27] Okay so now that sounded like.

[01:01:30] Draw draft daft it sounded daft.

[01:01:35] That I would be climbing I don't need to climb.

[01:01:38] I mean I'm taken I'm taken into the future automatically by just being.

[01:01:47] But when doing this I'm just creating sort of a space probe and I'm sending it to you.

[01:01:56] Because at the same time.

[01:01:59] As I am here in my now you're there in your now and we meet.

[01:02:09] Hot damn I think that's beautiful.

[01:02:15] Well it is you know.

[01:02:17] And this takes us to the end of this week's episode of fall asleep with Henrik.

[01:02:23] And as usual.

[01:02:26] Talk to me reach out to me if you want to tell me if you like it.

[01:02:34] So that I know and tell your friends if you enjoy it.

[01:02:40] And sleep most of all.

[01:02:43] Sleep and take care of yourself and have a wonderful week.

[01:02:47] And.

[01:02:49] I will be back next week with another episode.

[01:02:55] Good night sleepy.