In this meandering journey through consciousness, Henrik takes us on an intimate exploration of growing pains, both as a parent and once as a child himself. Through an imaginative tangent about Star Wars featuring Luke's fictional brother Fluke, Henrik weaves together themes of acceptance, education systems, and the universal struggle of finding one's place in the universe.
As rain drums steadily on his metal shelter, he reflects on his daughter's struggles with school, his own past in a barbershop quartet, and the bittersweet reality of watching young minds navigate institutional education.
The episode flows like a dream sequence, jumping from desert planets to Swedish choirs, all while maintaining a gentle, meditative tone that invites listeners to drift off into their own thoughts â or perhaps into sleep.
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[00:00:22] Hi and welcome to Fall asleep with Henrik. I'm Henrik and you're sleepy and it is what it is. What happens happens and right now there's nothing we can do about it.
[00:00:44] So without further ado, let's get this show on the road.
[00:00:54] Hi Sleepy, hi. So I'm in my studio, Adventure Wolf in English and it's raining on top of the Adventure Wolf.
[00:01:11] Raindrops in vivid manner hammers upon my metal shell. I love that.
[00:01:25] In case that fact has been unnoticed so far.
[00:01:32] In my Swedish version of this podcast, I usually talk a lot about how much I love rain.
[00:01:40] But I'm not sure I've mentioned it. I've mentioned it in this podcast.
[00:01:50] So, okay, so if you're new here and right now there are frequent new visitors that come and sometimes go because I think that I'm a bit sloppy with telling people what this is.
[00:02:06] So this is a sleeping podcast. I will just talk.
[00:02:11] I don't know anything about sleep in a clinical sense. I am not an expert.
[00:02:16] I am a dude from Sweden who have been doing this in Swedish for many years now.
[00:02:22] And it works very well in Swedish. So I'm trying this out in English.
[00:02:28] So the secret sauce in this is just I'm just talking.
[00:02:33] I'm opening my mouth and letting stuff out.
[00:02:41] Words, that is.
[00:02:43] And I don't plan in advance what I'm going to say and I don't edit anything out unless I happen to sneeze right into the microphone.
[00:02:51] Then I probably will edit that out.
[00:03:01] So how are you?
[00:03:03] How are you doing? How are you holding up?
[00:03:08] For me, it's...
[00:03:12] Well, these are turbulent times indeed.
[00:03:15] Indeed. I mean, the world around me...
[00:03:21] I have this constant feeling that it shivers.
[00:03:26] Like before you're going into a body of water.
[00:03:33] Like just before.
[00:03:35] You're standing there in your underwear and you're just...
[00:03:39] Or your bathing suit or whatever.
[00:03:41] Or your birth suit.
[00:03:43] You're just standing there and you know that it's going to be cold.
[00:03:47] So you shiver.
[00:03:51] In advance.
[00:03:54] Sometimes it feels like the world is doing just that.
[00:03:58] Shivers.
[00:03:59] Like we're about to plunge into some cold water.
[00:04:03] And I'm...
[00:04:04] Before you run off.
[00:04:06] Climbing the church tower.
[00:04:09] Yelling out over the premises that...
[00:04:14] That...
[00:04:14] Henrik is...
[00:04:17] He's a doomsdayer.
[00:04:18] He's a...
[00:04:20] He's telling me stuff that I'm trying to escape.
[00:04:24] That's why I have trouble sleeping.
[00:04:26] Because I think too much about the troubles of the world.
[00:04:28] And now he's telling me that he has this sense that the world is about to plunge into some deep water.
[00:04:34] Or...
[00:04:35] I would just want to say that...
[00:04:39] It's...
[00:04:40] It's okay.
[00:04:42] You know?
[00:04:43] Regardless of whether or not you feel this.
[00:04:46] Or regardless of whether or not I tell you about me feeling this.
[00:04:53] It's what it is.
[00:04:55] You know?
[00:04:56] The fact that you shy away from stuff or think of stuff that you don't want to think about...
[00:05:05] Doesn't go away.
[00:05:06] Like ever.
[00:05:08] There's no magic.
[00:05:11] I'm sorry to say but there is no magic in that sense anyway.
[00:05:16] That we can just press a button and then...
[00:05:20] Stuff will go away.
[00:05:22] Well, yeah.
[00:05:23] There is...
[00:05:23] There is this man.
[00:05:24] Man.
[00:05:25] There is this man.
[00:05:26] No.
[00:05:27] There is this one magical thing.
[00:05:31] But it doesn't offer a permanent solution and it's called drugs.
[00:05:36] So drugs...
[00:05:38] Drugs is...
[00:05:40] Don't get me wrong.
[00:05:42] I'm...
[00:05:42] I don't use drugs.
[00:05:44] Well, caffeine.
[00:05:46] Caffeine.
[00:05:47] I use caffeine.
[00:05:48] But I don't use any other drug.
[00:05:51] And not even for recreational purposes anymore.
[00:05:57] But...
[00:05:57] I have to say that drugs are really a great way to escape problems.
[00:06:04] The only problem with escaping the problem in that drug way, drug induced way, is that the problem doesn't really stay away.
[00:06:13] It just takes a pause.
[00:06:16] So...
[00:06:17] So...
[00:06:17] Pauses are great.
[00:06:21] And...
[00:06:21] One should take them.
[00:06:25] But...
[00:06:26] My experience in using drugs...
[00:06:29] Because I'm not particularly...
[00:06:32] Fond of them.
[00:06:33] Ha ha ha.
[00:06:34] But I have been.
[00:06:36] And if there were a safe way to do drugs...
[00:06:39] A way that doesn't involve...
[00:06:43] Sacrificing...
[00:06:44] Everything else...
[00:06:46] That is important to me...
[00:06:47] I would use them more frequently, I guess.
[00:06:51] Or I would use them.
[00:06:52] Period.
[00:06:54] But there's not.
[00:06:57] So...
[00:06:58] I'm stuck with me.
[00:07:00] I'm stuck with the...
[00:07:03] Poor conditions of my inner self.
[00:07:06] And...
[00:07:09] So there is no escape.
[00:07:11] And...
[00:07:11] I mean...
[00:07:12] You could...
[00:07:13] Cry about that.
[00:07:14] You can...
[00:07:15] You can...
[00:07:17] Go on an emotional rampage about that.
[00:07:21] And tell the world that it's not fair.
[00:07:24] You know?
[00:07:25] Why...
[00:07:26] Why can't there be...
[00:07:28] A magic switch?
[00:07:30] That I just...
[00:07:32] Flick.
[00:07:33] And then...
[00:07:36] I become...
[00:07:38] Whole.
[00:07:40] I become...
[00:07:42] Joy.
[00:07:43] Comfort and safety.
[00:07:47] Yeah, I agree with all of that.
[00:07:49] But there's not...
[00:07:51] So...
[00:07:52] No point in...
[00:07:56] Dwelling.
[00:07:57] You know?
[00:07:59] It is what it is.
[00:08:01] What happens, happens.
[00:08:02] And in that acceptance...
[00:08:04] I think there's some sort of a beauty.
[00:08:07] It's a beautiful thing.
[00:08:09] Really.
[00:08:10] Because...
[00:08:11] In bending my knee...
[00:08:14] At the threshold...
[00:08:15] Of existence.
[00:08:16] And saying...
[00:08:18] Okay.
[00:08:18] Your home.
[00:08:19] Your rules.
[00:08:20] So to speak.
[00:08:22] Then...
[00:08:23] You're just...
[00:08:25] Really bending...
[00:08:27] The knee for...
[00:08:29] Yourself.
[00:08:30] In the universe.
[00:08:32] And...
[00:08:33] You get to be alive.
[00:08:35] As a human being.
[00:08:37] As a creature on planet Earth.
[00:08:41] And...
[00:08:41] That's the whole point.
[00:08:43] Isn't it?
[00:08:44] I mean...
[00:08:44] If there even is a point...
[00:08:46] Then that's the point.
[00:08:47] I guess...
[00:08:49] I'm gonna try this out.
[00:08:51] I'm gonna do this...
[00:08:52] According to the rules...
[00:08:53] Of the cosmos.
[00:08:55] And...
[00:08:56] Then we'll see.
[00:08:57] You know?
[00:08:58] We don't know what happens after.
[00:09:00] We know that suffering and fear...
[00:09:02] Is a part of the human experience...
[00:09:04] And...
[00:09:05] Or...
[00:09:06] The experience of being alive.
[00:09:12] And...
[00:09:13] So I have to take the good with the bad.
[00:09:16] And it's okay.
[00:09:17] I think.
[00:09:21] I think so.
[00:09:24] But don't get me wrong.
[00:09:26] If there were a switch...
[00:09:27] I would...
[00:09:28] Be there...
[00:09:29] Flickering it like it was...
[00:09:33] Fourth of July.
[00:09:34] I...
[00:09:36] I don't even know what that means.
[00:09:39] Sorry.
[00:09:42] Okay.
[00:09:42] So now you know a bit about...
[00:09:44] What this kind of material is like.
[00:09:47] I'm just talking.
[00:09:52] And I had this idea that I would...
[00:09:55] Tell you a story today.
[00:09:59] It's much harder for me to tell stories in English.
[00:10:03] Since...
[00:10:04] I...
[00:10:05] I'm not really...
[00:10:07] 100% fluid.
[00:10:11] Fluent.
[00:10:12] No.
[00:10:12] I'm not fluid.
[00:10:13] I'm not a fluid.
[00:10:16] I don't have the flu.
[00:10:17] I'm not fluid.
[00:10:19] I'm...
[00:10:20] Not a fluke.
[00:10:21] Well, maybe I am.
[00:10:23] Maybe I am just a fluke.
[00:10:26] Like the guy who drove...
[00:10:31] The X-Wing.
[00:10:33] Responsible for...
[00:10:35] Destroying the Death Star in Star Wars.
[00:10:37] Fluke Skywalker.
[00:10:41] So...
[00:10:42] It was actually Luke's...
[00:10:44] Younger brother.
[00:10:45] There is so little known about Fluke Skywalker.
[00:10:49] He wasn't very...
[00:10:52] Well, he wasn't very...
[00:10:56] He was...
[00:10:57] He had a face that only a mother could love.
[00:11:02] And...
[00:11:02] That may be the reason why people never really...
[00:11:06] Mentioned him.
[00:11:07] Because he was...
[00:11:08] Well...
[00:11:09] Let me just say that...
[00:11:11] He looked unconventional.
[00:11:13] And...
[00:11:16] I mean...
[00:11:17] People are generally scared of...
[00:11:20] Folks who look unconventional...
[00:11:23] To their own convention.
[00:11:26] And that's...
[00:11:27] I guess one of the main problems...
[00:11:30] Of living together on this planet.
[00:11:34] Imagine a planet where...
[00:11:36] There was no...
[00:11:37] Unconvention.
[00:11:40] Wouldn't it be great?
[00:11:42] But then again...
[00:11:43] That'll have to...
[00:11:46] Depend on whether or not...
[00:11:48] Where your limits for what's conventional...
[00:11:52] Are drawn.
[00:11:53] Where exactly...
[00:11:56] Is the line between conventional and unconventional?
[00:11:59] So...
[00:12:01] Fluke Skywalker was unconventional...
[00:12:04] And he were...
[00:12:06] Suffering a great deal...
[00:12:09] Because of that.
[00:12:10] Because of people...
[00:12:12] On...
[00:12:13] Tatooine...
[00:12:14] The...
[00:12:16] Sand planet where Luke was...
[00:12:18] Luke and Fluke were brought up...
[00:12:21] By their uncle and aunt.
[00:12:24] And...
[00:12:26] It's weird because in the films...
[00:12:27] You never see Fluke.
[00:12:29] He was actually in a few of the shots.
[00:12:32] Initially...
[00:12:33] He was delivering droid parts to Luke...
[00:12:38] Saying...
[00:12:39] And he had a...
[00:12:40] Bad lisp as well.
[00:12:42] You know?
[00:12:42] So he...
[00:12:43] He said...
[00:12:43] Here you go...
[00:12:44] Here you go...
[00:12:45] Here you go Luke...
[00:12:46] Here are the droid parts...
[00:12:49] That you asked for.
[00:12:50] And Luke was kind of like...
[00:12:52] Dismissing...
[00:12:53] A bit dismissive of him.
[00:12:55] Like...
[00:12:55] Get out of here.
[00:12:56] Get out of my shot.
[00:12:57] I'm here to...
[00:12:58] Actually the...
[00:12:59] The famous shot where Luke is...
[00:13:01] Looking at the two suns...
[00:13:03] And he...
[00:13:04] He's longing to get away...
[00:13:06] From...
[00:13:06] Tatooine.
[00:13:08] And...
[00:13:11] Or...
[00:13:12] Tatooine...
[00:13:13] Is it...
[00:13:13] Is that the name of the city?
[00:13:14] I don't remember.
[00:13:15] Tatooine is the planet, right?
[00:13:20] Oh...
[00:13:20] I don't remember.
[00:13:21] I...
[00:13:22] I...
[00:13:22] I used to be like this...
[00:13:25] Great Star Wars expert...
[00:13:26] But then I got a child and...
[00:13:28] She sort of sucked all the Star Wars knowing...
[00:13:32] Knowingness out of me.
[00:13:36] And replaced it with...
[00:13:38] Stuff that you need to know about a growing child.
[00:13:41] Like for instance...
[00:13:43] That she hates school.
[00:13:47] That came as a surprise.
[00:13:49] No, it didn't.
[00:13:50] But one of the things that really...
[00:13:55] As my daughter gets older...
[00:13:59] She's a teenager now.
[00:14:01] And...
[00:14:01] She never really particularly cared for school.
[00:14:06] But...
[00:14:07] Now it's...
[00:14:08] It has reached new levels of hate, really.
[00:14:12] And I remember that now.
[00:14:15] Of course I was bullied...
[00:14:16] When I went to school.
[00:14:18] But...
[00:14:18] And she is not.
[00:14:19] Thank God.
[00:14:21] But...
[00:14:23] It's...
[00:14:23] Sort of...
[00:14:27] I mean...
[00:14:28] Almost...
[00:14:29] Like this...
[00:14:31] Movie.
[00:14:32] She hates school so much.
[00:14:35] Like...
[00:14:35] Could you possibly hate something more?
[00:14:37] And then...
[00:14:38] At the end of the day...
[00:14:40] When she comes home...
[00:14:41] She's like...
[00:14:42] Yeah, it was okay.
[00:14:44] You know?
[00:14:45] And she has...
[00:14:46] Ideas and...
[00:14:48] Influences from people at school.
[00:14:50] And she's mad about stuff.
[00:14:52] And she's happy about stuff.
[00:14:53] Like...
[00:14:54] You know...
[00:14:54] Every person...
[00:14:55] Coming home from work or school.
[00:14:58] But every morning we sit in the car.
[00:15:00] And we go over and over and over...
[00:15:02] How much she hates school.
[00:15:05] And...
[00:15:07] It's like...
[00:15:09] School...
[00:15:10] Isn't meant for...
[00:15:12] People that age.
[00:15:14] Or I mean...
[00:15:15] Maybe no one...
[00:15:15] Ever...
[00:15:17] Is meant for school.
[00:15:19] As it looks today.
[00:15:21] And as it has been...
[00:15:24] For like...
[00:15:25] 100 years.
[00:15:27] The fact that you're going into this building...
[00:15:30] Together with people that you don't know.
[00:15:34] Or...
[00:15:35] Haven't chosen.
[00:15:37] I mean...
[00:15:38] You haven't even chosen the...
[00:15:41] The...
[00:15:41] The venue...
[00:15:43] The...
[00:15:43] The general...
[00:15:45] Idea of the education.
[00:15:47] It's some...
[00:15:48] Foreign...
[00:15:50] Power above you.
[00:15:51] That you don't control.
[00:15:53] That don't...
[00:15:54] Not even your parents controlled it.
[00:15:56] In a way.
[00:15:58] And...
[00:15:59] So you're together with people that are...
[00:16:01] You normally wouldn't ever meet them.
[00:16:05] Maybe that's the case in any occupation really.
[00:16:08] But...
[00:16:10] At least when you choose...
[00:16:14] A craft.
[00:16:15] You know...
[00:16:16] An occupation.
[00:16:18] You...
[00:16:18] Get to do stuff that you...
[00:16:20] At least you have chosen it.
[00:16:22] You know...
[00:16:23] Whether or not...
[00:16:24] You do it...
[00:16:25] Happily or not.
[00:16:26] It's a choice.
[00:16:28] But school isn't a choice.
[00:16:30] You're just there.
[00:16:32] And you're forced to be there for like...
[00:16:34] Six hours a day.
[00:16:36] And people are telling you stuff...
[00:16:38] That you need to remember.
[00:16:40] Because...
[00:16:40] If you don't...
[00:16:42] Then you will get...
[00:16:43] Low grades.
[00:16:44] And if you have low grades...
[00:16:45] Then you won't...
[00:16:46] Get into the fancy...
[00:16:48] Educations...
[00:16:49] That you...
[00:16:50] Dream of.
[00:16:51] She's dreaming of stuff...
[00:16:53] She wants to do in the future.
[00:16:54] And...
[00:16:55] And then there's this fear...
[00:16:58] Of getting bad grades.
[00:17:03] I think it's really awful...
[00:17:05] To put young people through that.
[00:17:06] I don't have a solution.
[00:17:08] I don't have a better idea.
[00:17:10] It's just...
[00:17:11] I really think it's awful...
[00:17:13] To put young...
[00:17:15] Growing minds through that...
[00:17:21] Conformity...
[00:17:22] Factory...
[00:17:23] Which I guess...
[00:17:26] I mean...
[00:17:27] To be honest...
[00:17:28] The best way of getting through school...
[00:17:31] And...
[00:17:31] To keep the suffering as low as possible...
[00:17:34] You need to be...
[00:17:37] Like everyone else.
[00:17:39] Like the...
[00:17:41] So called...
[00:17:44] Normative...
[00:17:45] Student...
[00:17:46] For which...
[00:17:48] The school system is adapt...
[00:17:50] And built around...
[00:17:51] And I mean...
[00:17:52] Who is...
[00:17:53] That person?
[00:17:55] I don't really know any of them.
[00:17:57] I guess...
[00:17:57] There are some people...
[00:18:00] That really work well...
[00:18:02] In these types of environments...
[00:18:04] Perhaps people who need to get away from home...
[00:18:06] I guess...
[00:18:07] I guess school in that way is...
[00:18:09] A safe zone...
[00:18:13] And...
[00:18:14] I wouldn't take away their...
[00:18:17] Freedom...
[00:18:17] Or safe space...
[00:18:18] I...
[00:18:19] I wouldn't want to do that...
[00:18:21] So as I said...
[00:18:22] I don't have a better idea...
[00:18:24] But when I look at my daughter...
[00:18:26] And I remember...
[00:18:27] Suddenly remember...
[00:18:28] How it felt...
[00:18:31] Not counting the bullying...
[00:18:32] Because that was a whole different...
[00:18:35] And a whole extra layer of...
[00:18:38] Suffering...
[00:18:38] But...
[00:18:39] Just the fact that I needed to go...
[00:18:41] Into these rooms...
[00:18:43] And be there...
[00:18:44] And learn about stuff that were...
[00:18:48] Like...
[00:18:49] It came from nowhere...
[00:18:51] And people told me in stern voices...
[00:18:53] That I needed to know this...
[00:18:55] Because of...
[00:18:56] Because...
[00:18:57] Otherwise...
[00:18:58] I would be...
[00:18:59] This useful citizen...
[00:19:02] In the kingdom of Sweden...
[00:19:04] I would...
[00:19:05] Be this...
[00:19:06] Useful...
[00:19:08] Piece of...
[00:19:09] Parasite...
[00:19:11] Not even a whole parasite...
[00:19:13] Just a piece of a parasite...
[00:19:14] That...
[00:19:15] The others...
[00:19:16] The good student...
[00:19:18] The good students...
[00:19:19] Had to...
[00:19:21] Carry...
[00:19:21] Through life...
[00:19:23] And...
[00:19:23] I mean...
[00:19:24] It's so...
[00:19:25] It's such an ugly way...
[00:19:27] Of looking at a growing mind...
[00:19:31] Maybe when you're an adult...
[00:19:33] If you have lived your whole life...
[00:19:35] Being carried by others...
[00:19:37] Not benefiting...
[00:19:38] Just benefiting...
[00:19:40] Not contributing to...
[00:19:42] The common wealth...
[00:19:43] In any way...
[00:19:45] Just out of...
[00:19:46] Pure laziness...
[00:19:48] If there ever is such a thing...
[00:19:50] Then...
[00:19:52] Okay...
[00:19:53] But to...
[00:19:54] To implement that feeling into a growing person...
[00:19:57] A person...
[00:19:59] A person...
[00:19:59] Whose mind is like...
[00:20:03] So...
[00:20:04] Full of possibilities...
[00:20:06] And just...
[00:20:07] Remove them...
[00:20:08] One by one...
[00:20:09] When the...
[00:20:11] Actual...
[00:20:12] Goal...
[00:20:15] Spoken...
[00:20:16] Written goal...
[00:20:17] About that very education is...
[00:20:20] To bring that child into this...
[00:20:24] World...
[00:20:25] To...
[00:20:26] To make that child...
[00:20:28] A happy...
[00:20:30] Productive...
[00:20:31] Creative...
[00:20:33] Loving human being...
[00:20:35] And...
[00:20:36] The fact that...
[00:20:37] So much of creativity and...
[00:20:43] Trust...
[00:20:45] Is being removed in school...
[00:20:47] And I'm not sure...
[00:20:48] It's just a matter of different schools...
[00:20:52] I think it's a...
[00:20:54] It's a part of how we...
[00:20:56] Teach our young...
[00:21:01] I read somewhere that...
[00:21:03] One of the worst...
[00:21:04] Methods to learn...
[00:21:07] Anything...
[00:21:07] Is to...
[00:21:08] Be forced to learn stuff...
[00:21:10] In a certain pace...
[00:21:12] Together with other people...
[00:21:13] With different ways of learning...
[00:21:17] I mean there are...
[00:21:19] There are so many better ways to learn...
[00:21:21] But we...
[00:21:21] Haven't had...
[00:21:22] The possibilities to implement them in...
[00:21:25] Like public schools...
[00:21:27] And we need...
[00:21:28] Public schools...
[00:21:29] I mean we need...
[00:21:30] An education system...
[00:21:33] We can't just...
[00:21:34] Leave it up to the parents...
[00:21:36] I mean...
[00:21:38] Society would collapse...
[00:21:40] We need...
[00:21:41] But we have different venues today...
[00:21:46] And...
[00:21:46] It breaks my heart...
[00:21:50] To see her in the mornings...
[00:21:52] Don't get me wrong...
[00:21:54] I don't think that she's...
[00:21:56] In a...
[00:21:58] Terrible school or anything...
[00:22:00] I think...
[00:22:01] It's...
[00:22:02] It's the way that we...
[00:22:06] Educate...
[00:22:07] Young people everywhere...
[00:22:10] I just think that it's...
[00:22:12] Inhuman...
[00:22:13] We're not meant to...
[00:22:17] Stack knowledge...
[00:22:19] Upon knowledge...
[00:22:20] Upon knowledge...
[00:22:23] We're meant to...
[00:22:25] Do...
[00:22:27] And learn...
[00:22:29] And follow our...
[00:22:30] Curiosity and passion...
[00:22:33] We're not meant to...
[00:22:36] Memorize...
[00:22:38] Years...
[00:22:38] And...
[00:22:39] We're not even meant to memorize...
[00:22:42] All the bones in our bodies...
[00:22:44] Just because...
[00:22:46] Of the sake of it...
[00:22:48] You know...
[00:22:49] Don't get me wrong...
[00:22:51] Of course you need to know...
[00:22:52] What your body consists of...
[00:22:54] But maybe that's...
[00:22:55] That could be a part of a more holistic...
[00:22:57] Way of interacting with your own body...
[00:23:01] Maybe that could be like...
[00:23:04] I don't know...
[00:23:08] Maybe...
[00:23:08] The school systems could be more...
[00:23:10] The school systems could be more...
[00:23:10] Holistic...
[00:23:11] And...
[00:23:12] Above all...
[00:23:14] More...
[00:23:14] Focused on the actual individual...
[00:23:17] That...
[00:23:17] The school system is there to teach...
[00:23:20] And...
[00:23:21] Because right now...
[00:23:22] It's like...
[00:23:23] It feels like...
[00:23:24] The main purpose of the schools...
[00:23:27] Are to produce grades...
[00:23:30] That can tell...
[00:23:32] Politicians and other...
[00:23:36] Bureaucrats...
[00:23:38] How good or well the school...
[00:23:41] Is performing...
[00:23:44] And...
[00:23:44] I mean why?
[00:23:47] What good is it to...
[00:23:50] I mean it's like a self-sustaining machine...
[00:23:53] One...
[00:23:53] With no purpose...
[00:23:56] Yeah...
[00:23:57] I know I'm sounding...
[00:23:58] Harsh...
[00:23:59] I know I have a lot of Swedish listeners as well...
[00:24:01] In this podcast and...
[00:24:03] I mean...
[00:24:04] I don't...
[00:24:05] As I said...
[00:24:06] I don't know...
[00:24:06] An answer to this...
[00:24:08] It's just been my feeling...
[00:24:10] Ever since my daughter's...
[00:24:11] Started school...
[00:24:12] That...
[00:24:14] Not everyone...
[00:24:17] Well...
[00:24:17] Almost none...
[00:24:19] Are meant to be...
[00:24:21] In that sort of environment...
[00:24:23] I mean not even the teachers...
[00:24:26] Who thrives...
[00:24:29] In that sort of environment...
[00:24:32] Who thrives from that...
[00:24:34] Level of stress...
[00:24:36] And...
[00:24:37] Impossible goals...
[00:24:40] And...
[00:24:42] I mean...
[00:24:43] And it's such a tragedy...
[00:24:44] I really think it's a tragedy...
[00:24:48] Sorry...
[00:24:48] I'm not here to...
[00:24:50] I'm not here to...
[00:24:52] Make you feel down...
[00:24:56] Well...
[00:24:57] Neither...
[00:24:57] I'm not here to...
[00:24:58] Make you feel anything...
[00:25:00] In particular...
[00:25:01] You get to feel what you get to feel...
[00:25:02] And maybe...
[00:25:03] If I'm here to do anything...
[00:25:05] It's to...
[00:25:06] Make you...
[00:25:08] Okay with...
[00:25:10] Whatever you're feeling...
[00:25:15] I can't...
[00:25:16] Remove stuff...
[00:25:20] And...
[00:25:22] On the other hand...
[00:25:24] I can't implement stuff...
[00:25:25] In your mind...
[00:25:27] Either...
[00:25:28] You're the one who...
[00:25:30] Putting them there...
[00:25:31] I'm just...
[00:25:32] What do you call it?
[00:25:34] The influencer...
[00:25:36] The trigger...
[00:25:42] But anyway...
[00:25:43] I was talking about...
[00:25:43] Fluke Skywalker...
[00:25:45] And...
[00:25:45] He had this...
[00:25:46] Homeschooling system thing...
[00:25:48] On the...
[00:25:50] Where...
[00:25:52] You know...
[00:25:53] Luke and Fluke...
[00:25:54] Went to school together...
[00:25:55] And their aunt...
[00:25:56] Were teaching them...
[00:25:58] And...
[00:25:58] You know...
[00:25:59] They weren't...
[00:26:01] Taught how to knit...
[00:26:04] Or...
[00:26:04] Carve out...
[00:26:06] Butter knives...
[00:26:07] Out of...
[00:26:08] Tree...
[00:26:09] They were taught...
[00:26:11] Like...
[00:26:11] How to repair...
[00:26:12] And maintain...
[00:26:14] Robots...
[00:26:14] And...
[00:26:15] What was it...
[00:26:17] What kind of a farm was it...
[00:26:19] That Luke's...
[00:26:20] And Fluke's...
[00:26:21] Aunt...
[00:26:21] And...
[00:26:23] Uncle...
[00:26:23] Owned?
[00:26:24] Moist farm...
[00:26:25] I don't know...
[00:26:26] I don't even know what that is...
[00:26:30] It was a harsh...
[00:26:33] Upbringing...
[00:26:33] I believe...
[00:26:35] I mean...
[00:26:35] Just...
[00:26:36] Think of Luke...
[00:26:37] And Fluke...
[00:26:38] And Leia...
[00:26:41] And...
[00:26:44] Leia also...
[00:26:45] I mean...
[00:26:45] She also...
[00:26:47] Grew up with...
[00:26:48] A sister...
[00:26:48] A younger sister...
[00:26:49] And her name was Lyre...
[00:26:53] And...
[00:26:53] As you can imagine...
[00:26:55] She got in a lot of trouble...
[00:26:57] And...
[00:26:57] The books or the movies...
[00:26:59] There's no books...
[00:27:00] But...
[00:27:01] The movies never mentioned her...
[00:27:03] Either...
[00:27:03] So there were actually four siblings...
[00:27:06] So it was Luke and Fluke...
[00:27:08] And Leia and Lyre...
[00:27:11] And they were...
[00:27:13] Well...
[00:27:14] They were separated at birth...
[00:27:15] Because of...
[00:27:16] Like...
[00:27:16] Because of...
[00:27:17] Anakin Skywalker...
[00:27:18] So that he wouldn't find...
[00:27:20] If he were to find one of the siblings...
[00:27:22] He couldn't find the other one...
[00:27:24] Etc...
[00:27:25] Etc...
[00:27:30] So...
[00:27:31] Well...
[00:27:32] Isn't that an...
[00:27:32] Ancient biological...
[00:27:36] Theme...
[00:27:37] To a story?
[00:27:40] Like...
[00:27:41] Hiding your offspring from a destructive...
[00:27:44] Dangerous father...
[00:27:46] Isn't that like...
[00:27:49] Animalistic...
[00:27:51] Even?
[00:27:52] Like something...
[00:27:54] All mammals...
[00:27:56] Or maybe all animals...
[00:27:58] Has experienced...
[00:28:00] And still are experienced...
[00:28:02] Isn't that...
[00:28:03] Kind of a...
[00:28:04] Thing that...
[00:28:07] Animal dads...
[00:28:09] Kill some of their offspring?
[00:28:10] I mean...
[00:28:13] Talk about...
[00:28:14] Ancient themes in a story...
[00:28:18] What are the ancient themes?
[00:28:22] Being...
[00:28:24] Dismissed...
[00:28:25] Abandoned...
[00:28:27] Falling out...
[00:28:28] Of grace...
[00:28:30] That must be...
[00:28:32] Like this...
[00:28:33] Ancient theme...
[00:28:35] Something that...
[00:28:37] Every...
[00:28:38] At least every mammal...
[00:28:40] On planet Earth...
[00:28:41] Has felt...
[00:28:42] Since the beginning of the...
[00:28:45] Species...
[00:28:49] The...
[00:28:51] Need to...
[00:28:52] Protect your...
[00:28:53] Child...
[00:28:56] That's also an ancient story...
[00:29:01] The need to...
[00:29:04] Be...
[00:29:05] The fear of being replaced...
[00:29:10] That's also a...
[00:29:11] Theme...
[00:29:15] Isn't it...
[00:29:16] Something...
[00:29:17] Isn't it fascinating to think about...
[00:29:19] That...
[00:29:19] All the stories...
[00:29:21] Even contemporary ones...
[00:29:23] That we look...
[00:29:24] And...
[00:29:25] And...
[00:29:25] And...
[00:29:26] And...
[00:29:26] And...
[00:29:27] And...
[00:29:29] Absorb...
[00:29:30] In any way...
[00:29:31] That they are all variants of...
[00:29:33] These...
[00:29:34] Like...
[00:29:35] Millions of years old...
[00:29:40] Contexts...
[00:29:42] Adaptations of an old theme...
[00:29:45] That is older than humanity...
[00:29:50] Being loved...
[00:29:52] Being...
[00:29:53] Safe...
[00:29:55] Staying alive...
[00:30:00] Having a prominent position within a group...
[00:30:03] The need of...
[00:30:05] Growing from 0 to 100...
[00:30:08] The struggle of being seen...
[00:30:12] The struggle of being loved...
[00:30:16] The struggle of staying relevant...
[00:30:19] Winning the game...
[00:30:20] The fear and pain of losing...
[00:30:27] Anything or something...
[00:30:28] Or anyone...
[00:30:35] Yeah...
[00:30:36] So...
[00:30:39] Yeah...
[00:30:40] They didn't know...
[00:30:41] About each other...
[00:30:43] Luke...
[00:30:44] Fluke...
[00:30:45] Leia and Lyre...
[00:30:47] They didn't know...
[00:30:48] Of the other two...
[00:30:51] And...
[00:30:52] So there's actually this scene...
[00:30:55] Where Luke stands...
[00:30:56] And he's looking at these two sons...
[00:30:58] And he's longing for something different...
[00:31:01] He needs to get away...
[00:31:02] And there's this...
[00:31:04] Iconical music...
[00:31:06] Like Luke's theme...
[00:31:08] Or whatever it's called...
[00:31:09] By John Williams...
[00:31:11] And...
[00:31:11] You get to know him...
[00:31:13] Like for...
[00:31:17] By just looking at this scene...
[00:31:19] For three seconds...
[00:31:21] You get to know all of Luke Skywalker...
[00:31:24] And...
[00:31:24] Don't get me wrong...
[00:31:25] It's not...
[00:31:27] He's not a really deep character...
[00:31:29] It's not...
[00:31:29] Very hard to get to know him...
[00:31:32] He's a young man...
[00:31:33] And he's looking for...
[00:31:35] And he's looking to grow...
[00:31:37] And he has...
[00:31:38] All these...
[00:31:40] Aspirations...
[00:31:42] But there's actually this...
[00:31:44] Edited out scene...
[00:31:46] When...
[00:31:46] Fluke comes up to him...
[00:31:48] And...
[00:31:48] Stands next to him...
[00:31:49] And holds his hand...
[00:31:50] And...
[00:31:51] Luke just recoils...
[00:31:53] And he's looking at Fluke like...
[00:31:56] What are you doing in my shot?
[00:31:57] I'm here...
[00:31:59] Presenting...
[00:32:01] Myself...
[00:32:02] This is a very intimate moment...
[00:32:03] And you're just ruining it...
[00:32:06] Aunt...
[00:32:08] Fluke is ruining my moment...
[00:32:10] And then the aunt comes out...
[00:32:12] And just...
[00:32:13] Pulls Fluke out by the ear...
[00:32:14] And there's crying...
[00:32:15] And I think there's even some beating...
[00:32:18] Off camera...
[00:32:19] And so...
[00:32:20] I mean he had a horrible...
[00:32:23] Horrible upbringing...
[00:32:24] Fluke...
[00:32:25] And Luke was the favorite of course...
[00:32:27] Because he was like...
[00:32:28] The force was strong in him...
[00:32:30] And blah blah blah...
[00:32:33] But...
[00:32:34] The uncle really cared most for...
[00:32:37] About Fluke...
[00:32:37] Because Fluke was...
[00:32:39] Yeah he was easily managed...
[00:32:41] You know...
[00:32:42] Luke was all about...
[00:32:44] Adventure and...
[00:32:45] Wanting to be a pilot...
[00:32:46] And...
[00:32:47] Having these...
[00:32:50] Prophecies about him...
[00:32:51] That the force would be strong in the family...
[00:32:53] And so on...
[00:32:55] But Fluke didn't show any of that...
[00:32:57] He never show any of the signs...
[00:33:01] That the couple had been told to look out for...
[00:33:04] Like...
[00:33:05] Accidentally strangling classmates...
[00:33:08] By pure...
[00:33:11] Telekinesi...
[00:33:13] Telekinesi...
[00:33:14] Telek...
[00:33:16] Telekaloosla...
[00:33:17] As it's called in English...
[00:33:19] In proper English...
[00:33:20] Whatever you're using...
[00:33:22] Sometimes...
[00:33:23] Sometimes when I speak...
[00:33:27] I...
[00:33:28] Become this other person...
[00:33:30] When I speak English...
[00:33:31] It's...
[00:33:32] It's...
[00:33:32] It's very exciting...
[00:33:35] When I've been...
[00:33:36] Talking like this for...
[00:33:38] About half an hour...
[00:33:41] I...
[00:33:42] Suddenly...
[00:33:43] There's been like...
[00:33:45] 5...
[00:33:45] 10...
[00:33:46] 11 minutes...
[00:33:47] Without me even thinking...
[00:33:49] One...
[00:33:50] Single Swedish...
[00:33:52] Thought...
[00:33:53] And...
[00:33:54] Then I become this other...
[00:33:56] Person...
[00:33:57] I would really...
[00:33:57] If you know...
[00:33:58] Another language...
[00:34:00] Whether or not...
[00:34:01] You're Swedish...
[00:34:02] Listening to this...
[00:34:03] Or...
[00:34:03] If you...
[00:34:04] Happen to know...
[00:34:05] Another language...
[00:34:08] Then...
[00:34:09] Try to just...
[00:34:10] Speak it for...
[00:34:11] A prolonged...
[00:34:13] Period of time...
[00:34:14] And...
[00:34:15] Talk like...
[00:34:16] Constantly...
[00:34:17] Like I do...
[00:34:17] Even if you're...
[00:34:18] By yourself...
[00:34:19] Well...
[00:34:20] I am...
[00:34:21] Right now...
[00:34:21] Even though I...
[00:34:22] Talk to...
[00:34:23] A presumed...
[00:34:25] Audience...
[00:34:25] You...
[00:34:26] Sleepy...
[00:34:27] But...
[00:34:29] Nevertheless...
[00:34:30] Just try it...
[00:34:31] Because it's...
[00:34:32] It's so weird...
[00:34:34] Sometimes...
[00:34:34] I...
[00:34:36] Kind of forget...
[00:34:37] Who I am...
[00:34:39] And...
[00:34:40] Then I...
[00:34:41] Actually thought that I could...
[00:34:43] Pronounce the word...
[00:34:45] Telekinesis...
[00:34:46] Is it...
[00:34:47] Is it pronounced like that?
[00:34:49] Telekinesis...
[00:34:50] I have no idea...
[00:34:53] But...
[00:34:54] My English me...
[00:34:55] Just told me that...
[00:34:56] Go ahead and say it...
[00:34:57] It's okay...
[00:34:58] You can do this...
[00:34:59] I have no doubt...
[00:35:01] Son...
[00:35:02] Do as you've been trained...
[00:35:03] Son...
[00:35:04] And I did...
[00:35:05] And I failed miserably...
[00:35:07] So...
[00:35:08] I'm sorry...
[00:35:10] But it's...
[00:35:11] I mean it's...
[00:35:15] It's sort of...
[00:35:16] Exciting to...
[00:35:18] Be...
[00:35:21] You know...
[00:35:23] I'm out on deep water here...
[00:35:26] I'm not sure...
[00:35:28] What I'm doing...
[00:35:30] Who I am...
[00:35:31] Speaking this language...
[00:35:33] And it's exciting...
[00:35:35] Because I'm...
[00:35:38] Well...
[00:35:39] We all need excitement...
[00:35:41] Don't we?
[00:35:42] So...
[00:35:42] Anyway...
[00:35:43] That's my recommendation for today...
[00:35:45] Spend at least an hour everyday...
[00:35:47] Speaking another language...
[00:35:49] And if you don't know another language...
[00:35:50] Just...
[00:35:51] Make one up...
[00:35:52] You know...
[00:35:54] Make one up...
[00:35:56] And...
[00:35:56] It doesn't matter that it's not real...
[00:35:59] Just...
[00:36:00] Use it...
[00:36:01] You know...
[00:36:02] Say...
[00:36:03] Whatever...
[00:36:03] Comes into mind...
[00:36:05] So for instance...
[00:36:06] Now I'm going to speak a language...
[00:36:08] That doesn't really exist...
[00:36:10] And my transcribation software...
[00:36:12] My...
[00:36:13] My transcribing software...
[00:36:16] Will...
[00:36:16] I don't know what...
[00:36:18] Well...
[00:36:19] It's going to be exciting...
[00:36:21] To see what my transcription software...
[00:36:23] Makes out of this...
[00:36:25] Made up language...
[00:36:26] That...
[00:36:26] Comes out of my mouth...
[00:36:29] Starting now...
[00:36:55] I'm sorry...
[00:36:58] I'm sorry...
[00:37:00] But then again...
[00:37:00] This is what you signed up for...
[00:37:03] I can't...
[00:37:05] I can't guarantee...
[00:37:07] That you will come out of this...
[00:37:09] A sane...
[00:37:12] And...
[00:37:13] Harmonized person...
[00:37:17] When I was a teenager...
[00:37:19] I...
[00:37:19] Used to sing...
[00:37:20] In a barbershop...
[00:37:22] Choir...
[00:37:22] And...
[00:37:23] We formed a barbershop quartet...
[00:37:26] I...
[00:37:27] Was the bass...
[00:37:28] I were the bass...
[00:37:30] And people used to call me the baby bass...
[00:37:33] Because I was...
[00:37:35] Well...
[00:37:36] The smallest...
[00:37:37] And people couldn't imagine that I had...
[00:37:39] Like...
[00:37:40] I could produce bass tones...
[00:37:44] But I could...
[00:37:45] So...
[00:37:46] We had a quartet...
[00:37:47] And we...
[00:37:48] And in the choir...
[00:37:50] There was just...
[00:37:51] This...
[00:37:52] Huge bunch of old men...
[00:37:54] And then the four of us...
[00:37:55] Who were teenagers...
[00:37:57] For...
[00:37:59] Kids really...
[00:38:00] We were 17...
[00:38:02] 16...
[00:38:03] 17...
[00:38:04] 18...
[00:38:05] And...
[00:38:07] The...
[00:38:08] The...
[00:38:09] We had like...
[00:38:10] Sweatshirts...
[00:38:11] With the print on it...
[00:38:13] With the choir's...
[00:38:15] Like...
[00:38:15] Logo...
[00:38:17] And...
[00:38:18] We had a...
[00:38:19] Byline...
[00:38:20] Like a slogan...
[00:38:21] And the slogan was...
[00:38:22] I'm harmonized...
[00:38:23] Are you?
[00:38:25] And...
[00:38:25] I always thought that...
[00:38:27] That was such a funny...
[00:38:29] Slogan...
[00:38:30] Because it implies that...
[00:38:33] Harmonized is something that...
[00:38:35] You know...
[00:38:36] Applies to life as well...
[00:38:39] Of course...
[00:38:40] What it implied to was...
[00:38:42] I am in harmony...
[00:38:43] In my own choir...
[00:38:45] You know...
[00:38:45] I sing...
[00:38:48] In tune...
[00:38:49] You know...
[00:38:50] I'm in tuned...
[00:38:51] I'm tuned to the rest of my...
[00:38:55] Singer friends...
[00:38:56] But...
[00:38:57] When you just say it like that...
[00:38:59] I'm harmonized...
[00:39:00] Are you?
[00:39:00] Sort of sounds religious...
[00:39:02] You know...
[00:39:03] I've met Jesus...
[00:39:04] Have you?
[00:39:05] You know...
[00:39:06] And...
[00:39:08] The...
[00:39:09] The overall atmosphere in...
[00:39:11] That choir were really...
[00:39:13] Like...
[00:39:13] Secteristic...
[00:39:14] In a way...
[00:39:15] If you...
[00:39:16] If you sang out of tune...
[00:39:18] You were like...
[00:39:21] Almost...
[00:39:22] Discharged from the choir...
[00:39:25] They couldn't do that...
[00:39:26] But...
[00:39:27] You were...
[00:39:28] You were...
[00:39:29] You were...
[00:39:30] Ruined for everyone...
[00:39:31] If you sang out of tune...
[00:39:33] And I mean...
[00:39:33] We all did...
[00:39:35] From time to time...
[00:39:38] So...
[00:39:40] We had this...
[00:39:43] Fantasy...
[00:39:44] Me and my friends...
[00:39:45] The other...
[00:39:46] Kids in that quartet...
[00:39:47] That we had...
[00:39:50] We were actually called...
[00:39:52] The choir was called...
[00:39:54] Falu minor chords...
[00:39:56] No minor chords...
[00:39:58] Because...
[00:39:59] I mean...
[00:40:00] The minor...
[00:40:00] Minor chords...
[00:40:02] Are a part of...
[00:40:03] Barbershop...
[00:40:03] But...
[00:40:04] Falu...
[00:40:05] The place where I grew up...
[00:40:06] In Sweden...
[00:40:08] The city...
[00:40:09] Is a mining town...
[00:40:10] So...
[00:40:11] Minor...
[00:40:11] You know...
[00:40:13] And...
[00:40:14] We were called...
[00:40:15] The minor gang...
[00:40:17] Because we were...
[00:40:18] Like...
[00:40:19] Minor...
[00:40:19] And...
[00:40:20] Minors...
[00:40:20] As well...
[00:40:21] You know...
[00:40:21] We...
[00:40:22] We weren't actual...
[00:40:23] Minors...
[00:40:24] But...
[00:40:25] I think you knew that...
[00:40:28] So...
[00:40:29] We...
[00:40:31] We used to joke...
[00:40:33] About the other old guys...
[00:40:35] Because we never wore those...
[00:40:36] Sweatshirts...
[00:40:37] They were ugly as hell...
[00:40:39] And...
[00:40:40] It was...
[00:40:41] It was beneath us...
[00:40:43] You know...
[00:40:44] To wear them...
[00:40:44] But...
[00:40:45] All the...
[00:40:45] Old guys...
[00:40:46] Were them...
[00:40:47] Old guys...
[00:40:48] I guess...
[00:40:49] The...
[00:40:50] They were in their 40s...
[00:40:52] Like...
[00:40:52] Younger than I am now...
[00:40:54] But we thought of them as old guys...
[00:40:56] And...
[00:40:57] They were all...
[00:40:58] Many of them were drinking heavily...
[00:41:00] On their tours...
[00:41:01] And...
[00:41:01] Performances and stuff...
[00:41:03] And it was actually quite a...
[00:41:06] It was quite an ugly place...
[00:41:09] And...
[00:41:10] When I quit...
[00:41:11] They actually shaped up...
[00:41:13] And became like this...
[00:41:14] Great choir...
[00:41:15] We...
[00:41:16] We...
[00:41:17] We...
[00:41:17] Had...
[00:41:19] We participated in...
[00:41:21] Competitions...
[00:41:22] Barbershop contests...
[00:41:24] And we...
[00:41:24] When...
[00:41:25] When I were in the choir...
[00:41:26] We always got...
[00:41:28] Like...
[00:41:28] Placed...
[00:41:29] Last place...
[00:41:31] But for some reason...
[00:41:32] When we...
[00:41:33] Left the choir...
[00:41:36] Most of us...
[00:41:37] Young...
[00:41:38] Then...
[00:41:39] They shaped up really well...
[00:41:41] So I guess it was our fault...
[00:41:43] But...
[00:41:44] We...
[00:41:44] We thought of them...
[00:41:45] In a way with...
[00:41:47] Contempt...
[00:41:47] Because they were like this...
[00:41:49] Old...
[00:41:49] Drunk...
[00:41:51] Guys...
[00:41:52] And...
[00:41:53] You know...
[00:41:54] They weren't that good...
[00:41:56] Singers anyway...
[00:41:57] And we...
[00:41:58] We had this...
[00:41:59] Very...
[00:42:01] Elitistic way of looking at singing...
[00:42:03] And we were all so lousy...
[00:42:06] I mean...
[00:42:07] We couldn't...
[00:42:07] We...
[00:42:08] We weren't harmonized...
[00:42:09] Let's just say that...
[00:42:10] But we joked that...
[00:42:14] The whole choir would have these...
[00:42:17] Sweatshirts on...
[00:42:18] And they would just...
[00:42:19] Commit like a collective suicide...
[00:42:21] On a boat...
[00:42:22] We...
[00:42:22] We were...
[00:42:23] Traveling to Denmark...
[00:42:25] And we...
[00:42:25] We didn't...
[00:42:26] I think it was before the bridge...
[00:42:29] Between Sweden and Denmark...
[00:42:31] So we...
[00:42:31] We took a boat...
[00:42:33] And we fantasized that the whole choir...
[00:42:36] All the old men would just...
[00:42:37] Decide that this...
[00:42:38] This is not...
[00:42:39] I mean...
[00:42:40] This is not the life we signed up for...
[00:42:42] And that they would jump into the...
[00:42:44] The ocean...
[00:42:45] And they would do it during this...
[00:42:48] Choir practice...
[00:42:49] When you just...
[00:42:50] In order to find like...
[00:42:53] Overtones...
[00:42:54] Overtones...
[00:42:55] Do you know what overtones is?
[00:42:57] Like...
[00:42:58] When you listen to this...
[00:43:00] Some...
[00:43:00] Ancient way of...
[00:43:02] Throat singing...
[00:43:03] One of the...
[00:43:05] Main...
[00:43:06] Goals with throat singing...
[00:43:08] Is that...
[00:43:09] When you take...
[00:43:09] When you...
[00:43:10] When you produce a tone...
[00:43:12] That is very deep or...
[00:43:14] Very...
[00:43:18] What do you say?
[00:43:19] Clear?
[00:43:20] You can...
[00:43:23] You can hear...
[00:43:24] Like several...
[00:43:25] Overtones...
[00:43:26] Like tones that aren't actually produced by the...
[00:43:30] By the vocal chords...
[00:43:32] But it's...
[00:43:33] It's a...
[00:43:35] It's an audio thing...
[00:43:37] You know...
[00:43:37] It just...
[00:43:41] Appears...
[00:43:42] So we had this...
[00:43:43] Singing...
[00:43:44] Exercise...
[00:43:45] When we just...
[00:43:47] Said...
[00:43:49] Binho...
[00:43:50] Binho...
[00:43:51] So we had this fantasy...
[00:43:52] That the whole choir would stand on a line...
[00:43:54] At the railing...
[00:43:56] And...
[00:43:56] On the boat...
[00:43:57] And they were just...
[00:43:58] Binho...
[00:43:59] And then we're just...
[00:44:00] One by one...
[00:44:01] Just jumping...
[00:44:01] Jump into the ocean...
[00:44:03] And then...
[00:44:04] The ocean...
[00:44:05] The boat would...
[00:44:06] Vanish...
[00:44:07] And the waves would be left...
[00:44:10] Undisturbed...
[00:44:11] And on the...
[00:44:13] Brinks of the waves...
[00:44:14] Like...
[00:44:14] The foam...
[00:44:16] The white foam...
[00:44:17] There would be these...
[00:44:18] Sweatshirts...
[00:44:19] Sweatshirts floating...
[00:44:21] I'm harmonized...
[00:44:22] Are you?
[00:44:23] It was such a...
[00:44:26] I guess we were...
[00:44:27] Filled with some sort of...
[00:44:31] Contempt for these guys...
[00:44:33] It doesn't...
[00:44:34] It's...
[00:44:35] It doesn't feel very well to...
[00:44:37] Tell you about that...
[00:44:39] Isn't it...
[00:44:40] Kind of boring...
[00:44:41] To think about when...
[00:44:43] When you're young...
[00:44:45] Really young...
[00:44:46] You think of older people as...
[00:44:50] Losers...
[00:44:51] When you're a teenager...
[00:44:53] And...
[00:44:54] Now I know...
[00:44:57] That...
[00:44:57] I mean...
[00:44:58] Life...
[00:44:59] Has its way...
[00:45:00] You know...
[00:45:02] I still think of it as sort of a...
[00:45:05] Depraved...
[00:45:06] Environment...
[00:45:07] For a teenager...
[00:45:09] In a way...
[00:45:10] I mean...
[00:45:10] The drinking...
[00:45:11] Were...
[00:45:11] For some of the guys...
[00:45:14] They were like...
[00:45:16] Full-time alcoholics...
[00:45:18] And...
[00:45:18] I'm not sure that...
[00:45:22] That made me...
[00:45:24] Like...
[00:45:25] That didn't do me any good...
[00:45:27] I guess...
[00:45:29] It didn't put me...
[00:45:31] In a state where I started drinking...
[00:45:33] That came much later...
[00:45:35] But it was...
[00:45:37] Yeah...
[00:45:38] It wasn't a very thriving environment...
[00:45:40] I would say...
[00:45:41] And...
[00:45:42] I had dreams...
[00:45:43] And...
[00:45:44] If I didn't have them...
[00:45:45] I guess...
[00:45:46] I would turn up...
[00:45:47] Turn out like Fluke...
[00:45:50] He actually sang in a barbershop quartet...
[00:45:53] Fluke...
[00:45:54] On Tatooine...
[00:45:56] Together with a smorph...
[00:45:57] And a dwarf...
[00:45:58] And a glorf...
[00:45:59] Which are very common species...
[00:46:02] On...
[00:46:03] Among the sand dunes...
[00:46:08] What's the name of that city?
[00:46:10] The...
[00:46:11] Mos Eisley...
[00:46:14] So...
[00:46:16] There's only one city...
[00:46:17] On the whole planet of Tatooine...
[00:46:20] I mean...
[00:46:21] I have...
[00:46:22] I've talked about this before...
[00:46:23] But it...
[00:46:24] It's really provoking to me...
[00:46:26] That there's this whole planet...
[00:46:28] And there's desert all around it...
[00:46:31] Even by the poles...
[00:46:33] Where...
[00:46:33] Well...
[00:46:34] Or...
[00:46:34] Maybe it isn't...
[00:46:35] Maybe it's snow...
[00:46:36] By the poles...
[00:46:37] But...
[00:46:38] Who knows, right?
[00:46:39] So...
[00:46:42] In Star Wars...
[00:46:43] They have this...
[00:46:44] Micro universe...
[00:46:46] That...
[00:46:47] One planet...
[00:46:48] Is really just one city...
[00:46:50] And...
[00:46:51] Some...
[00:46:52] Obscure...
[00:46:53] Very small...
[00:46:54] Outskirts...
[00:46:56] And...
[00:46:57] I don't...
[00:46:58] I have never in a Star Wars...
[00:47:01] Franchised...
[00:47:03] Production...
[00:47:05] Seemed...
[00:47:06] Seen...
[00:47:08] Sorry...
[00:47:08] Seen...
[00:47:09] The vastness of it...
[00:47:12] You know...
[00:47:12] There is one planet...
[00:47:14] That is like...
[00:47:15] This huge city...
[00:47:17] The entire...
[00:47:19] Planet...
[00:47:20] Is a city...
[00:47:21] Why can't I feel that...
[00:47:23] Whenever I see the...
[00:47:24] Productions...
[00:47:25] You know...
[00:47:26] Imagine a city...
[00:47:28] The size of Earth...
[00:47:29] What would that do...
[00:47:31] To us...
[00:47:32] As a species...
[00:47:35] Imagine that you can...
[00:47:36] Sit on a subway...
[00:47:38] And go to another country...
[00:47:41] By...
[00:47:42] I mean...
[00:47:42] By maglev...
[00:47:43] Or something...
[00:47:46] Imagine...
[00:47:47] You live on a planet...
[00:47:48] That is all desert...
[00:47:50] And...
[00:47:51] I mean...
[00:47:52] These...
[00:47:53] Okay...
[00:47:54] So just...
[00:47:54] Let's say for the sake of it...
[00:47:56] That...
[00:47:57] Mos Eisley is...
[00:47:58] The only city on Tatooine...
[00:48:00] It's a really small town...
[00:48:02] I mean...
[00:48:03] From the looks of it...
[00:48:04] It's just this little...
[00:48:06] Water hole in the desert...
[00:48:08] But...
[00:48:09] And...
[00:48:10] And...
[00:48:10] And...
[00:48:11] All the criminals in the...
[00:48:12] Settled systems...
[00:48:13] Are coming there...
[00:48:15] To do business...
[00:48:17] And...
[00:48:18] All you see really are...
[00:48:20] Three...
[00:48:20] Four...
[00:48:21] Well...
[00:48:22] Fifteen houses at most...
[00:48:24] And a spaceport...
[00:48:26] It's just not...
[00:48:28] Believable...
[00:48:29] I mean...
[00:48:30] Why wouldn't there be other cities?
[00:48:32] And...
[00:48:33] Okay...
[00:48:34] So...
[00:48:34] Let's just say...
[00:48:35] There isn't...
[00:48:37] Then why isn't...
[00:48:38] Mos Eisley...
[00:48:39] Like this huge...
[00:48:40] Mega city...
[00:48:41] Why?
[00:48:42] Is it because there are certain...
[00:48:45] Climate conditions...
[00:48:46] On Tatooine...
[00:48:47] That you can't...
[00:48:50] Build a city in?
[00:48:52] You know...
[00:48:53] This is the limit?
[00:48:55] Okay...
[00:48:55] So why can't we just...
[00:48:57] I mean there are...
[00:48:58] In the first movie...
[00:49:00] Luke and Fluke...
[00:49:01] But...
[00:49:02] But Fluke was edited out of course...
[00:49:05] Luke is...
[00:49:06] Traveling by...
[00:49:07] With his speeder...
[00:49:08] Out into the desert...
[00:49:10] To meet Obi-Wan Kenobi...
[00:49:11] Well he doesn't know that...
[00:49:13] But...
[00:49:14] He...
[00:49:15] He's...
[00:49:15] He will...
[00:49:17] Eventually...
[00:49:19] And then...
[00:49:20] There's sand people...
[00:49:22] Which are weird people...
[00:49:23] With...
[00:49:24] Kind of...
[00:49:24] Gas masks and stuff...
[00:49:27] And...
[00:49:28] So...
[00:49:31] He...
[00:49:32] He really...
[00:49:33] He's really there...
[00:49:34] Into the...
[00:49:36] In the...
[00:49:37] The wild...
[00:49:38] So to speak...
[00:49:38] But the wild...
[00:49:40] I mean...
[00:49:40] Of course it's filmed on Earth...
[00:49:42] In Morocco or somewhere...
[00:49:45] Egypt maybe...
[00:49:46] But it's...
[00:49:49] It's so tiny...
[00:49:51] I mean...
[00:49:51] What are the implications...
[00:49:53] Of a whole planet...
[00:49:54] With just dust...
[00:49:56] You know...
[00:49:56] Think of Mars...
[00:49:59] Imagine living in a little hut...
[00:50:01] On Mars...
[00:50:05] With nothing...
[00:50:06] In between you...
[00:50:07] And this...
[00:50:08] Planet sized...
[00:50:10] Desert...
[00:50:11] I would want to feel that...
[00:50:14] When I look at...
[00:50:16] You know...
[00:50:17] Star Wars themed stuff...
[00:50:20] But...
[00:50:21] There's always these...
[00:50:23] Even when you're in the wilderness...
[00:50:25] You're like in this...
[00:50:26] Micro wilderness...
[00:50:30] So...
[00:50:31] And I think it's because of the spaceships...
[00:50:34] Because...
[00:50:34] They are...
[00:50:35] It's...
[00:50:36] It's almost like you're cheating...
[00:50:39] When you have a spaceship...
[00:50:42] Because...
[00:50:42] You can always just go up in orbit...
[00:50:44] And then just dive down to your...
[00:50:47] Next destination...
[00:50:51] Imagine...
[00:50:52] Living on Mars...
[00:50:54] And...
[00:50:54] Don't have...
[00:50:55] You don't have any spaceship...
[00:50:57] Like...
[00:50:58] Imagine living on Earth...
[00:51:00] Not having...
[00:51:02] A spaceship...
[00:51:03] As it is...
[00:51:04] I mean...
[00:51:05] You probably don't own...
[00:51:06] A spaceship right now...
[00:51:08] If you do...
[00:51:09] You can...
[00:51:09] Please reach out to me...
[00:51:10] And tell me about that...
[00:51:12] I read about a guy...
[00:51:13] Who had this...
[00:51:14] Mock...
[00:51:16] Spaceship...
[00:51:16] Built up in his basement...
[00:51:18] And...
[00:51:19] I got goosebumps...
[00:51:20] Because I really...
[00:51:22] Well...
[00:51:23] Don't get me wrong...
[00:51:24] Well...
[00:51:24] I don't even have a basement...
[00:51:25] But...
[00:51:26] And if I had...
[00:51:27] I wouldn't build a spaceship in it...
[00:51:28] But it's such a cozy idea...
[00:51:31] I would love...
[00:51:32] To have like...
[00:51:33] Huge LCD screens...
[00:51:35] Put up...
[00:51:36] So that it can...
[00:51:37] You know...
[00:51:39] So that I can...
[00:51:40] Put space out there...
[00:51:42] And just...
[00:51:43] Have some...
[00:51:44] Random looping...
[00:51:45] Spaceship noise...
[00:51:47] Constantly going on in the basement...
[00:51:49] So...
[00:51:49] Whenever I wanted to change worlds...
[00:51:52] Feel like I'm...
[00:51:54] Part of something else...
[00:51:56] When I get bored by reality...
[00:51:58] I could go down there and...
[00:51:59] You know...
[00:52:01] Drink chocolate milk...
[00:52:02] And have a sandwich...
[00:52:04] And pretend that I'm seven...
[00:52:11] Yeah...
[00:52:12] But of course...
[00:52:13] Luke and Fluke...
[00:52:14] Grow up on this...
[00:52:15] Vast...
[00:52:16] Desert planet...
[00:52:17] The size of...
[00:52:18] I mean...
[00:52:18] At least Earth...
[00:52:21] When you look at...
[00:52:22] How they move...
[00:52:22] They move...
[00:52:23] Like they do on Earth...
[00:52:25] So I guess the gravity...
[00:52:27] Conditions on...
[00:52:28] Tatooine...
[00:52:29] Are the same...
[00:52:30] As here on Earth...
[00:52:32] So...
[00:52:36] Okay...
[00:52:36] So...
[00:52:37] They just live there...
[00:52:38] In their little moist farm...
[00:52:40] Or whatever it is...
[00:52:41] And...
[00:52:44] And I guess...
[00:52:45] That's the cruelest scene...
[00:52:49] In Star Wars...
[00:52:50] The Star Wars saga...
[00:52:52] The original movies...
[00:52:54] And also...
[00:52:55] I guess...
[00:52:56] All the sequels...
[00:52:57] Or prequels...
[00:52:58] Or whatever you...
[00:52:58] You should call them...
[00:53:03] The...
[00:53:03] When Luke returns to his home...
[00:53:06] And find his...
[00:53:07] Step-parents...
[00:53:09] Dead...
[00:53:10] That's...
[00:53:11] I remember...
[00:53:12] I...
[00:53:12] I saw that first movie...
[00:53:14] When I was seven...
[00:53:15] And I remember that scene...
[00:53:17] Like...
[00:53:17] Etched into my mind...
[00:53:20] You don't really see them...
[00:53:22] And that's the scary part...
[00:53:24] You just see...
[00:53:26] Like...
[00:53:27] Smoking...
[00:53:28] Buddies...
[00:53:29] At a distance...
[00:53:30] And...
[00:53:30] That's sort of...
[00:53:31] I had never seen...
[00:53:33] Stuff like that...
[00:53:34] And...
[00:53:35] Of course...
[00:53:36] Since Disney...
[00:53:36] Bought the whole franchise...
[00:53:38] Then all of that is...
[00:53:40] You know...
[00:53:41] Bye-bye...
[00:53:43] And...
[00:53:44] Maybe that's a good thing...
[00:53:45] I don't know...
[00:53:50] So...
[00:53:54] If you're...
[00:53:55] To identify with...
[00:53:57] Any of the brothers...
[00:53:58] Sleepy...
[00:53:59] Who are you?
[00:54:00] Are you Luke?
[00:54:00] Or are you Fluke?
[00:54:03] I would say...
[00:54:04] That I'm Fluke...
[00:54:05] Because I...
[00:54:07] I'm no...
[00:54:08] I'm not the hero...
[00:54:10] Of the movie...
[00:54:11] You know...
[00:54:12] But...
[00:54:13] Then again...
[00:54:13] I think that I...
[00:54:16] Historically...
[00:54:17] In my life...
[00:54:17] If I can...
[00:54:18] Talk about my own life...
[00:54:20] As...
[00:54:20] Historically...
[00:54:21] I'm not sure...
[00:54:23] In the past...
[00:54:24] I think I...
[00:54:25] Thought about myself as...
[00:54:28] At least...
[00:54:30] Wanting to be...
[00:54:31] Luke...
[00:54:33] It's something...
[00:54:35] With...
[00:54:36] You know...
[00:54:37] When he stands there...
[00:54:38] And once they've edited out...
[00:54:40] Fluke...
[00:54:42] Just...
[00:54:43] Sneaking up to him...
[00:54:45] Lisping...
[00:54:45] You know...
[00:54:46] It's...
[00:54:46] I mean...
[00:54:47] It's...
[00:54:47] It's heartbreaking...
[00:54:49] Really...
[00:54:51] But...
[00:54:52] Also...
[00:54:54] I mean...
[00:54:55] That scene...
[00:54:56] Couldn't have...
[00:54:56] It wouldn't have worked...
[00:54:58] With that...
[00:55:00] Random brother...
[00:55:01] Just...
[00:55:01] Popping up...
[00:55:02] You know...
[00:55:05] Trying to...
[00:55:06] Sneak in some robot parts...
[00:55:08] In...
[00:55:08] Luke's pockets...
[00:55:10] You know...
[00:55:10] It's...
[00:55:11] It's not...
[00:55:12] It's not...
[00:55:13] Um...
[00:55:15] It's not how you...
[00:55:17] Want to see...
[00:55:18] How you would...
[00:55:19] At that time...
[00:55:20] Wanted to see...
[00:55:21] A hero...
[00:55:22] A true...
[00:55:22] Genuine hero...
[00:55:26] So...
[00:55:29] You know...
[00:55:30] When you...
[00:55:31] As a seven year old...
[00:55:32] When you see that...
[00:55:33] Young man...
[00:55:35] Standing on this...
[00:55:37] Sand dune...
[00:55:37] Looking at the two suns...
[00:55:39] And that music comes on...
[00:55:42] There's something...
[00:55:45] To this growing mind...
[00:55:47] That...
[00:55:47] Pops into place...
[00:55:51] And that's a...
[00:55:52] Beautiful thing...
[00:55:54] Really...
[00:55:54] Talk about ancient messages...
[00:55:56] You know...
[00:55:59] The force...
[00:56:01] Of growing...
[00:56:02] You know...
[00:56:03] The force...
[00:56:04] Of...
[00:56:06] Growing up...
[00:56:09] And that's...
[00:56:10] Why I think it's...
[00:56:11] Heartbreaking to see my daughter...
[00:56:14] Being dragged to school like that...
[00:56:16] Because she...
[00:56:18] She is right now...
[00:56:20] On that...
[00:56:20] Sand dune...
[00:56:21] Looking at the two suns...
[00:56:23] And that...
[00:56:25] Beautiful music comes on...
[00:56:26] You know...
[00:56:27] That music about longing...
[00:56:28] And...
[00:56:30] The sense of...
[00:56:31] Being meant...
[00:56:33] To do stuff...
[00:56:36] It's such an important...
[00:56:39] Emotional face...
[00:56:40] In every person's life...
[00:56:42] And...
[00:56:43] It's a shame...
[00:56:46] That...
[00:56:47] You know...
[00:56:48] They struggle...
[00:56:49] The kids...
[00:56:49] They struggle to keep that...
[00:56:53] Ember...
[00:56:54] You know...
[00:56:56] Within them...
[00:57:02] I...
[00:57:03] Well...
[00:57:04] Maybe I'm...
[00:57:05] Ignorant as well...
[00:57:06] Because...
[00:57:07] Maybe that force...
[00:57:09] Is unstoppable...
[00:57:10] At that age...
[00:57:11] I don't know...
[00:57:13] Maybe it's just...
[00:57:14] Grown up drama...
[00:57:15] I'm putting out right now...
[00:57:17] Because I...
[00:57:19] For sure...
[00:57:20] Couldn't be...
[00:57:22] My fire...
[00:57:24] Couldn't be put out...
[00:57:25] Regardless of...
[00:57:28] A defect school system...
[00:57:30] And...
[00:57:30] Bullying...
[00:57:32] My fire...
[00:57:34] Were just...
[00:57:35] Burning...
[00:57:37] Under lid...
[00:57:38] You know...
[00:57:40] And...
[00:57:41] When he got the chance...
[00:57:42] It just exploded...
[00:57:46] That started...
[00:57:47] That kickstarted my life...
[00:57:49] And it's still burning...
[00:57:51] So I don't know...
[00:57:52] Maybe...
[00:57:53] I'm just being overdramatic here...
[00:57:55] Maybe life sometimes...
[00:57:57] Just sucks...
[00:57:57] You know...
[00:58:01] It...
[00:58:01] It sure does...
[00:58:02] When you're a grown up...
[00:58:03] As well...
[00:58:06] Just...
[00:58:07] The fact that I...
[00:58:08] Sit there in the mornings...
[00:58:10] With my daughter...
[00:58:12] And...
[00:58:13] I can't...
[00:58:14] Help her...
[00:58:15] More than I do...
[00:58:17] I can't...
[00:58:19] I...
[00:58:20] I tell her that...
[00:58:21] This is just temporary...
[00:58:24] This is just a...
[00:58:26] Short period of your life...
[00:58:29] And...
[00:58:29] Your life will go on...
[00:58:31] And it will bring so much...
[00:58:33] Other stuff...
[00:58:34] You know...
[00:58:36] You will get to choose...
[00:58:37] Your world...
[00:58:38] Your destiny...
[00:58:38] You live in a...
[00:58:40] In a wonderful...
[00:58:41] Wondrous era...
[00:58:43] You know...
[00:58:45] Where...
[00:58:45] Kids...
[00:58:46] In my part of the world...
[00:58:48] Can choose their own future...
[00:58:50] I mean...
[00:58:51] There's no...
[00:58:53] Equivalence to that...
[00:58:55] Historically...
[00:58:58] And...
[00:58:58] Even in other parts of the world...
[00:59:00] That's...
[00:59:00] This is still not a possibility...
[00:59:02] For a young woman...
[00:59:04] A young girl...
[00:59:06] And...
[00:59:07] Here you are...
[00:59:09] I want to say that...
[00:59:11] But...
[00:59:11] I mean...
[00:59:12] I can't...
[00:59:12] She's in her world...
[00:59:15] And...
[00:59:16] Time for her...
[00:59:18] Is her time...
[00:59:19] So she doesn't get it...
[00:59:20] When I say...
[00:59:21] It's just...
[00:59:22] Three more years...
[00:59:25] So...
[00:59:28] Yeah...
[00:59:28] That sucks...
[00:59:31] It sucks to be a grown up as well...
[00:59:34] Sleepy...
[00:59:37] But in the middle of all this...
[00:59:39] Suckness...
[00:59:41] You get to have...
[00:59:43] Coffee...
[00:59:44] You get to...
[00:59:46] Love people...
[00:59:50] You get to learn stuff...
[00:59:51] In your own pace...
[00:59:53] At your own...
[00:59:55] Will...
[00:59:57] At your own convenience...
[00:59:59] I just learned how to drive a car...
[01:00:02] I mean...
[01:00:03] I think about that every day...
[01:00:05] It's like...
[01:00:07] I...
[01:00:08] I'm euphoric...
[01:00:11] And...
[01:00:12] It's nothing to be really euphoric about...
[01:00:14] But it's something new...
[01:00:16] And I'm almost 50...
[01:00:18] And...
[01:00:19] I get to learn...
[01:00:22] And that's amazing...
[01:00:27] Good night Sleepy...
[01:00:28] There are people...
[01:00:28] Here are people...
[01:00:28] I...
[01:00:28] Three...
[01:00:28] Not going to...
[01:00:28] Thank you.